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cubedrum · 05-18-2005, 06:29 PM

This is obviously very dated and incomplete information. Since this article was published Evander's record is 2-5-2 0KOs. I'm betting Rahman would have caught up to him if the fight had gone longer too. If we rated Tyson just before the Douglas fight, HE finishes top 3. If Ali or Louis had stumble bummed their way through the final 6 years of their careers, they might not be so revered by the boxing writers. If Ali or Louis had said "I had this injury or that injury, and that's why I lost", they definitely wouldn't be thought of so positively. If Tyson's legacy can be so damaged by his post prime ineptness, then Holyfield's can too. Sonny Liston would have murdered Holyfield. Can you imagine Holyfield's reaction against Marciano when Rocky started butting back? Frazier would have hooked over that lazy jab all night. Holyfield against a prime Foreman would have been sad too. Holyfield's shorter reach and mediocre jab, along with Foreman just killing aggressive boxer punchers in his prime, would have made for a short night. I think that even Norton or Holmes would have beaten a prime Holyfield. Even contenders like Quarry or Nino Valdes would have a shot. Who knows when Holyfield might show up "out of shape" or with an "injured shoulder" or "heart trouble" or "halitosis" (Ok the last one is a joke). If the cruiserweight division didn't exist during Evander's reign, he would have had 5 more losses at least, developing his boxing skills against actual heavies. Overrated by almost everyone, especially Evander.

Just a side note, how can someone with as many children outside his marriage as Evander has actually quote the Bible on TV? What an arrogant jackass.

Cube

05-18-2005, 06:29 PM	#19 (permalink)
cubedrum All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 876	This is obviously very dated and incomplete information. Since this article was published Evander's record is 2-5-2 0KOs. I'm betting Rahman would have caught up to him if the fight had gone longer too. If we rated Tyson just before the Douglas fight, HE finishes top 3. If Ali or Louis had stumble bummed their way through the final 6 years of their careers, they might not be so revered by the boxing writers. If Ali or Louis had said "I had this injury or that injury, and that's why I lost", they definitely wouldn't be thought of so positively. If Tyson's legacy can be so damaged by his post prime ineptness, then Holyfield's can too. Sonny Liston would have murdered Holyfield. Can you imagine Holyfield's reaction against Marciano when Rocky started butting back? Frazier would have hooked over that lazy jab all night. Holyfield against a prime Foreman would have been sad too. Holyfield's shorter reach and mediocre jab, along with Foreman just killing aggressive boxer punchers in his prime, would have made for a short night. I think that even Norton or Holmes would have beaten a prime Holyfield. Even contenders like Quarry or Nino Valdes would have a shot. Who knows when Holyfield might show up "out of shape" or with an "injured shoulder" or "heart trouble" or "halitosis" (Ok the last one is a joke). If the cruiserweight division didn't exist during Evander's reign, he would have had 5 more losses at least, developing his boxing skills against actual heavies. Overrated by almost everyone, especially Evander. Just a side note, how can someone with as many children outside his marriage as Evander has actually quote the Bible on TV? What an arrogant jackass. Cube __________________ "If you build a man a fire, he stays warm for one day. If you set a man on fire, he stays warm for the rest of his life" - Edgar Frog Last edited by cubedrum : 05-18-2005 at 06:35 PM.