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Old 06-14-2005, 11:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
Johnny Slick
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I'm pretty close to sebastian on this one. He's consistently been the 4th or 5th best pitcher in the AL, but never *the* best. If he's a HOFer, he's Richie Ashburn, not Willie, Mickey, or the Duke. Don't get me wrong, Ashburn's a great player too, but he's definitely not in the Inner Circle and from year to year I'd have to think about who he was up against in terms of voting. Would he be the first HOF starting pitcher never to win 20? Yes, wins are overrated, but in this case it's a great example of his not-quite dominance.

In order to make him an absolute lock, I think he needs to reach some more milestones. 250 wins would be nice. We also haven't seen the downside of his career yet; that may have contributed to Bert Blyleven's not being in, so I wouldn't be surprised, if Moose stunk it up for the next 4-5 years, he'd end up on the outside looking in too.
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