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Old 06-15-2005, 12:24 AM   #19 (permalink)
Johnny Slick
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Originally Posted by Joshv02
Ehh, they are all reasonable, but I can't see why you'd take Appier over him. You can make a reasonable argument either way.
Appier has a better ERA+ and better K and W numbers. The only thing Moose has going for him that year is his W-L record. Personally, I find it disingenuous to argue that W-L is meaningless in one respect (his overall record) and then say that it's meaningful in this one (his record vs. Appier).

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I don't see why Cone is better, and Ontiveros had 115 innings 4.4 SO per.
You don't see how Cone's lower ERA in more or less the same offensive environment makes him a better pitcher? It's close, but if I had to pick, I'd go with Cone.

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Again, I can see a reasonable argument for Johnson and Sabs, though.
I'd hope you can find a reasonable argument for Randy because he was clearly better than Mussina that year.

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It would be reasonable to say any of those 6 (or maybe 7) guys -- or, really, it would be reasonable to say any of the 4 (or maybe 5) after Clemens and Maddux.Wakes had fewer SO and more BB.
Wakes is a knuckleballer and subject to different criteria than just Ks and BBs.

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I can see someone claiming Nomo was better, tho. Again, it is reasonable to put Moose in this bunch.
It's reasonable, but if you absolutely had to pick 3, I wouldn't include Mussina on the list. Again, I think he's a HOFer right now, but it's REALLY close, and he's got a lot of career left.
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