I can't keep track of who you are arguing with, Johnny.
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Originally Posted by Johnny Slick
Appier has a better ERA+ and better K and W numbers. The only thing Moose has going for him that year is his W-L record. Personally, I find it disingenuous to argue that W-L is meaningless in one respect (his overall record) and then say that it's meaningful in this one (his record vs. Appier).
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Who said "that W-L is meaningless in one respect (his overall record) and then say that it's meaningful in this one"?
I didn't.
I am basing it off of BB/K rate, btw. Though, b/c of HR rates, Appier has the better DIPS numbers.
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Originally Posted by Johnny Slick
You don't see how Cone's lower ERA in more or less the same offensive environment makes him a better pitcher? It's close, but if I had to pick, I'd go with Cone. But, again, there isn't really enough of a difference to say one is better.
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B/c it is close, I call them about equal.
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Originally Posted by Johnny Slick
I'd hope you can find a reasonable argument for Randy because he was clearly better than Mussina that year.
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Thanks! I gave you that one b/c you missed it

Again, I don't know what you are arguing with here, Johnny.
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Originally Posted by Johnny Slick
Wakes is a knuckleballer and subject to different criteria than just Ks and BBs.
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Their H/9 and BABIP are almost exactly the same.
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Again, I think he's a HOFer right now, but it's REALLY close, and he's got a lot of career left.
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Sure, that makes sense. I don't have as much faith as Eck does that he is clear cut.