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Originally Posted by Luis_Rivera
I'm aware of Petey being #1 overall, trust me. I was just pointing to obvious examples over the last 2 seasons where W-L was not a good metric in response to randomlefty.
It wasn't in response to your career W-L record contention. I understand that over a long career that it generally balances off for most guys. However, there's so many external factors, that I don't particularly care for it. Not to mention the fact that it's what EVERYONE cites when talking about pitchers so I probably am more defensive than I should be when it comes to using it.
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That's cool... just realize that now that the stathead community is finally beginning to gain acceptance with baseball as a whole, there's less and less of a need to get defensive. And it generally balances out not just for most guys but for nearly everyone. I've yet to see a truly great pitcher with a career record under .500, for example. Or even a very good one. Maybe there's some 19th century guy who was brilliant for 3 seasons but played for a horrible team all that time (back in the days of the 1 and 2 man "rotation"), but they're very rare if they exist at all.