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Old 12-13-2002, 01:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: HOF: Veterans ballot

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Originally posted by sixto
Bob Meusel - you see a pattern here if you look at every player's stats: a lot of 11-, 12-, 13-year careers where the players either had exceptional peaks or a brilliant but short career.
Here's another pattern I see: Ex-Yankees!!
Maris, Munson, Howard, Meusel, Allie Reynolds, Joe Gordon, Carl Mays, Billy Martin, Gabe Paul...even Bonds and Colavito were Yankees briefly.

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Newcombe benefits as many have from the national fascination with the Brooklyn Dodgers.
I am the ultimate Dodger homer. Although I feel very strong cases can and should be made for Hodges and Wills (and Garvey! ), I have never been under the notion that Newcombe should be enshrined. Newc was a very fine pitcher for 7 years but was basically done after the age of 31. He's almost the same as Denny McClain...they each had one year where they led the world in wins, won the Cy Young/MVP that year and McClain was also done by age 30.

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Originally posted by sixto
Dick Allen's numbers are also certainly pretty eye-popping, but I just don't know about him.
My feeling is that Dick will be inducted someday. I don't think he should be but I think he will.
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