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tysok · 06-02-2006, 02:33 PM

You're quite right. If the name of the league includes "baseball" then adding baseball to the end doesn't work. But "the" still works.

In those occasions I mentioned, can't recall all 192 of course, all of them were fixable by "the" but some could be fixed by adding "baseball" at the end... but when the league name includes baseball (American Baseball League) it doesn't work. So wouldn't it seem then that every one needs "the"?

You changed the text slightly in your example.
2 leagues,
Major League
American Baseball League
Both could very well be what someone might call the league, I agree. I don't think anyone would actually call it Major League Baseball, as that's more of a differential between Major League what.... I could be wrong of course, lots of people labeling leagues.

Then the text would say:
Today, Major League announced...
or Today, American Baseball League announced...
The first could also be fixed by "baseball" at the end, but not the second. But both need "the".
Even if the league name was generic like just John, or American League Baseball you would still be referring to a single entity comprised of several pieces. It's just labeled in such a way the "the" in front makes it seem weird, but is still technically right. God knows there's plenty of that type of thing in the English language.

Also since half of them are "right" to me, it seems odd that they're not at least all uniform in being "wrong", but the size of the project could easily make that very difficult to achieve.

What do you think of that? I admit I'm not overly creative in how leagues could be named, I have my style and can't think out of that style. Can you think of one where that wouldn't still be technically correct?

It's definately not a killer, it's just annoying to me (and not overly so).
By the way, I'm astounded by the number of items in there. Huge collection of ways to say the same thing... this couldn't have been easy.

06-02-2006, 02:33 PM	#24 (permalink)
tysok Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,458	You're quite right. If the name of the league includes "baseball" then adding baseball to the end doesn't work. But "the" still works. In those occasions I mentioned, can't recall all 192 of course, all of them were fixable by "the" but some could be fixed by adding "baseball" at the end... but when the league name includes baseball (American Baseball League) it doesn't work. So wouldn't it seem then that every one needs "the"? You changed the text slightly in your example. 2 leagues, Major League American Baseball League Both could very well be what someone might call the league, I agree. I don't think anyone would actually call it Major League Baseball, as that's more of a differential between Major League what.... I could be wrong of course, lots of people labeling leagues. Then the text would say: Today, Major League announced... or Today, American Baseball League announced... The first could also be fixed by "baseball" at the end, but not the second. But both need "the". Even if the league name was generic like just John, or American League Baseball you would still be referring to a single entity comprised of several pieces. It's just labeled in such a way the "the" in front makes it seem weird, but is still technically right. God knows there's plenty of that type of thing in the English language. Also since half of them are "right" to me, it seems odd that they're not at least all uniform in being "wrong", but the size of the project could easily make that very difficult to achieve. What do you think of that? I admit I'm not overly creative in how leagues could be named, I have my style and can't think out of that style. Can you think of one where that wouldn't still be technically correct? It's definately not a killer, it's just annoying to me (and not overly so). By the way, I'm astounded by the number of items in there. Huge collection of ways to say the same thing... this couldn't have been easy.