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Seviien · 07-22-2006, 11:50 PM

!!!Updates!!!
July 25,2006: Settings below have been updated for use with patch 1.02 build 12262
July 26,2006: Pitching settings tweaked & modded Data expanded to show 1916-1979
Sep 2, 2006: Settings adjusted for patch 1.03; updated charts and summary stats to follow.
Sep 2, 2006: Charts and summary stats updated

Below are charts that shows averages for recent MLB data alongside both the default OOTP settings and my modded settings. The tweaks aren't perfect, but I think they're a nice improvement over default.

Keep in mind that OOTP is a complex game, and the number of factors that seem to influence the aging curves are many. One of the prices for having such a complex and customizable game is that the interaction of customized options can produce results slightly different than what the customizer may desire. In fact, given all of the options in the game, the accuracy of the default settings is really a testament to the quality of the product and the people behind it.

Note that I made all my test reads after letting the game run for 15 years worth of sims. By using data from the 16th-20th years, I felt that I would be capturing the tendancies of AI player development -- which is crucial to long-term single player sims.
To allay concerns about the modifiers becoming dated through time, I used my suggested settings to sim from 1901-1979. That sim is represented below.

The settings I've used are depicted below. Nothing is ironclad, so feel free to experiment. That said, if you change the "Things That I Think Matter" ... well, I wouldnt be surprised if your results are different than mine

!!!SETTINGS!!!
(Set in-game values equal to values below)
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Things That I Think Matter:

10 round draft

3 Tier Minor System with the following MLEs:
```````````````AAA````AA``````A
Average```````0.850```0.775```0.700
Extra Base Hits`0.800```0.700```0.600
Homeruns`````0.800```0.650```0.500
Walks````````0.900```0.763```0.625
Strikeouts`````0.900```0.763```0.625

Batter Aging = 0.900
Batter Development = 0.700

Pitcher Aging = 4.000
Pitcher Development = 3.000

Coaching system is turned off

Injury frequency is "normal"

162 game schedule (Anything between 140-180 should be fine)

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Settings That Probably Don't Matter:
League totals and player creation modifiers are set to track historical data.

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Suggestions:
I found the accuracy of the curves to improve over time, so for best results I would suggest running your sim for 20-30 years before digging in and starting to play.

!!!SUMMARY DATA!!!
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Summary of Average Player Ages:

MLB Actuals: 28.7
Modded OOTP Batters: 28.9
Default OOTP Batters: 29.1

MLB Actuals: 28.5
Modded OOTP Pitchers: 28.9
Default OOTP Pitchers: 30.4

07-22-2006, 11:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
Seviien All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 917 Thanked 10x in 9 posts	Realistic Settings for Aging & Development !!!Updates!!! July 25,2006: Settings below have been updated for use with patch 1.02 build 12262 July 26,2006: Pitching settings tweaked & modded Data expanded to show 1916-1979 Sep 2, 2006: Settings adjusted for patch 1.03; updated charts and summary stats to follow. Sep 2, 2006: Charts and summary stats updated Below are charts that shows averages for recent MLB data alongside both the default OOTP settings and my modded settings. The tweaks aren't perfect, but I think they're a nice improvement over default. Keep in mind that OOTP is a complex game, and the number of factors that seem to influence the aging curves are many. One of the prices for having such a complex and customizable game is that the interaction of customized options can produce results slightly different than what the customizer may desire. In fact, given all of the options in the game, the accuracy of the default settings is really a testament to the quality of the product and the people behind it. Note that I made all my test reads after letting the game run for 15 years worth of sims. By using data from the 16th-20th years, I felt that I would be capturing the tendancies of AI player development -- which is crucial to long-term single player sims. To allay concerns about the modifiers becoming dated through time, I used my suggested settings to sim from 1901-1979. That sim is represented below. The settings I've used are depicted below. Nothing is ironclad, so feel free to experiment. That said, if you change the "Things That I Think Matter" ... well, I wouldnt be surprised if your results are different than mine !!!SETTINGS!!! (Set in-game values equal to values below) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Things That I Think Matter: 10 round draft 3 Tier Minor System with the following MLEs: ```````````````AAA````AA``````A Average```````0.850```0.775```0.700 Extra Base Hits`0.800```0.700```0.600 Homeruns`````0.800```0.650```0.500 Walks````````0.900```0.763```0.625 Strikeouts`````0.900```0.763```0.625 Batter Aging = 0.900 Batter Development = 0.700 Pitcher Aging = 4.000 Pitcher Development = 3.000 Coaching system is turned off Injury frequency is "normal" 162 game schedule (Anything between 140-180 should be fine) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Settings That Probably Don't Matter: League totals and player creation modifiers are set to track historical data. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Suggestions: I found the accuracy of the curves to improve over time, so for best results I would suggest running your sim for 20-30 years before digging in and starting to play. !!!SUMMARY DATA!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Summary of Average Player Ages: MLB Actuals: 28.7 Modded OOTP Batters: 28.9 Default OOTP Batters: 29.1 MLB Actuals: 28.5 Modded OOTP Pitchers: 28.9 Default OOTP Pitchers: 30.4 Attached Images Last edited by Seviien; 09-02-2006 at 04:26 PM.