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JCWeb · 08-24-2007, 01:30 PM

Jan 1921 BW Division Profile

Total: 77 RL: 42 TC: 35

RL by Career Stage:
End - 1
Post - 6
Prime - 15
Pre - 9
Beginning - 11 (9 New)

Rated: 24
800+: 6
500+: 16
200+: 24

Jan 1921 Rankings (Perf Pts and Changes from Jan 1920 in Parens)

Champ: Pete Herman 34-3-1 (14) (1522) (NC)
1. Johnny Coulon 45-7-6 (17) (1120) (+1)
2. Eddie Campi 34-9-3 (16) (1057) (+2)
3. Philadelphia Pal Moore 41-14-4 (14) (1014) (+3)
4. Kid Williams 35-10-1 (16) (1013) (-3)
5. Memphis Pal Moore 26-8-2 (11) (943) (+2)
6. Charles Ledoux 39-10 (29) (798) (-2)
7. Jack Kid Wolfe 26-11-2 (8) (730) (+5)
8. Packey O'Gatty 19-3-1 (14) (729) (+1)
9. Robert Dastillon 19-16-2 (13) (713) (+10)
10. Frankie Burns 31-20-1 (7) (702) (-5)

Comments: An aging division, as illustrated by the fact that four the above (Coulon, Campi, and Burns -- joined in 1921 by Kid Williams) will be at Post going into next year. Herman is unbeaten in his last 11, sporting 10 wins and one draw. The ever-present Coulon scored two wins (versus Goldstein and Joe Lynch) and a draw (against Wolfe) to remain high on the list despite reaching Post-Prime in 1920. Campi has won his last two, versus Kid Murphy and Burman. Phila Pal Moore recovered from his title defeat with two wins over Joe Fox (UD 10) and Williams (DQ 5). Williams slipped after losses to Philly Pal and Ledoux; his only 1920 victory came against Frankie Burns. Ledoux was 3-1 in 1920, dropping the EBU title bout but downing Williams, Burns (KO 7) and veteran Al Delmont. Wolfe shot into the Top 10 with three wins and a draw in five bouts; his victims included Little Jack Sharkey and FLY Johnny McCoy. O'Gatty won two of three, all in title bouts. Dastillon shot up the ranks by virtue of his EBU title win. Burns has now lost his last four but managed to stay in the Top 10 of this comparatively thin division.

Other Notables: The two Top 10 dropouts were Joe Lynch, who slid from #10 to 13, battling a three-bout losing streak but recovering with a UD 10 over Johnny Ertle late in the year, and long-time Top 10 contender Frankie Conley, who suffered UD losses in 1920 to Goldstein, Russell and Sharkey and remains winless since 1918. Little Jack Sharkey won three bouts (a MD over Ertle, UDs over Conley and Kid Murphy) to move to #11 in the rankings. Tremaine, the new CBU titleholder, debuts at #12, overcoming his first loss (a MD defeat at the hands of prospect Frankie Jerome) to down Fox en route to compiling a 15-1 (12) mark, worth 608 PPs. Abe Goldstein occupies the #14 slot, after going 2-2 for the year, with wins over Conley (UD) and Delmont (SD). George Marks debuts at #16 with a 15-3 (7) career record, dropping his last three to Jerome and Tremaine (twice) after a 15-0 start. Finally, GBU titleholder Joe Fox is #23 (last) on the list, with a 20-14-1 (8) mark for 313 PPs, as his only win came in the GBU title tilt with British FLY Joe Symonds.

Prospects: Frankie Jerome impressed with wins over Tremaine, Marks and Ad Rubidoux (the latter via TKO), but stumbled in his most recent, a SD loss to ex-Champ Al Delmont, to lower his career mark to 12-1 (7). Rubidoux, whose only loss has been to Jerome, is 11-1 (11) thus far. Johnny Brown is 7-0 (6) after a UD 8 over countryman Harry Lake, who moved to 7-1 (6) after the loss. Canadian Howard Mayberry remained unbeaten, as did Filipino Pete Sarmiento; both are off to identical 6-0 (5) starts. Midget Smith suffered a loss (via DQ) and draw with TC opponents and checks in with a 3-1-1 (1) record. Others getting their careers underway were Bud Taylor, at 3-0 (1) and Dynamite Murphy, at 2-0-1 (1).

Retirement: Only one BW retirement in 1920.

Kid Murphy (USA) 1903-20 42-25-1 (26) WBA Champ Highest Rank: 2

Murphy briefly held the WBA title in 1911, losing it back to Harry Harris in a rematch four months later.

Looking Ahead: Herman appears to be set for at least another year as WBA Champ, until he hits Post in 1922. Wolfe, Goldstein and younger fighters like Tremaine, Jerome and Rubidoux may be poised to develop into the next generation of top BW contenders as guys like Williams, Burns, Coulon and Campi fade from the limelight. Look for Memphis and Philly Pal Moore to continue to challenge for top honors. Nine newcomers swell the ranks in 1921, including Brit Teddy Baldock and Americans Eddie "Cannonball" Martin and Charley Phil Rosenberg.

Predictions: Struck out (oh-for-four) in 1920, so will shy away from any forecasts for 1921. Well, maybe one -- four new faces in the Top 10 as it looks like several fighters are ready to move up next year. Will also predict another year for Herman as WBA Champ, building his reputation as an ATG BW and also a strong position in the pound-for-pound list.

08-24-2007, 01:30 PM	#429 (permalink)
JCWeb All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 723	1920-Bantamweight Part II Jan 1921 BW Division Profile Total: 77 RL: 42 TC: 35 RL by Career Stage: End - 1 Post - 6 Prime - 15 Pre - 9 Beginning - 11 (9 New) Rated: 24 800+: 6 500+: 16 200+: 24 Jan 1921 Rankings (Perf Pts and Changes from Jan 1920 in Parens) Champ: Pete Herman 34-3-1 (14) (1522) (NC) 1. Johnny Coulon 45-7-6 (17) (1120) (+1) 2. Eddie Campi 34-9-3 (16) (1057) (+2) 3. Philadelphia Pal Moore 41-14-4 (14) (1014) (+3) 4. Kid Williams 35-10-1 (16) (1013) (-3) 5. Memphis Pal Moore 26-8-2 (11) (943) (+2) 6. Charles Ledoux 39-10 (29) (798) (-2) 7. Jack Kid Wolfe 26-11-2 (8) (730) (+5) 8. Packey O'Gatty 19-3-1 (14) (729) (+1) 9. Robert Dastillon 19-16-2 (13) (713) (+10) 10. Frankie Burns 31-20-1 (7) (702) (-5) Comments: An aging division, as illustrated by the fact that four the above (Coulon, Campi, and Burns -- joined in 1921 by Kid Williams) will be at Post going into next year. Herman is unbeaten in his last 11, sporting 10 wins and one draw. The ever-present Coulon scored two wins (versus Goldstein and Joe Lynch) and a draw (against Wolfe) to remain high on the list despite reaching Post-Prime in 1920. Campi has won his last two, versus Kid Murphy and Burman. Phila Pal Moore recovered from his title defeat with two wins over Joe Fox (UD 10) and Williams (DQ 5). Williams slipped after losses to Philly Pal and Ledoux; his only 1920 victory came against Frankie Burns. Ledoux was 3-1 in 1920, dropping the EBU title bout but downing Williams, Burns (KO 7) and veteran Al Delmont. Wolfe shot into the Top 10 with three wins and a draw in five bouts; his victims included Little Jack Sharkey and FLY Johnny McCoy. O'Gatty won two of three, all in title bouts. Dastillon shot up the ranks by virtue of his EBU title win. Burns has now lost his last four but managed to stay in the Top 10 of this comparatively thin division. Other Notables: The two Top 10 dropouts were Joe Lynch, who slid from #10 to 13, battling a three-bout losing streak but recovering with a UD 10 over Johnny Ertle late in the year, and long-time Top 10 contender Frankie Conley, who suffered UD losses in 1920 to Goldstein, Russell and Sharkey and remains winless since 1918. Little Jack Sharkey won three bouts (a MD over Ertle, UDs over Conley and Kid Murphy) to move to #11 in the rankings. Tremaine, the new CBU titleholder, debuts at #12, overcoming his first loss (a MD defeat at the hands of prospect Frankie Jerome) to down Fox en route to compiling a 15-1 (12) mark, worth 608 PPs. Abe Goldstein occupies the #14 slot, after going 2-2 for the year, with wins over Conley (UD) and Delmont (SD). George Marks debuts at #16 with a 15-3 (7) career record, dropping his last three to Jerome and Tremaine (twice) after a 15-0 start. Finally, GBU titleholder Joe Fox is #23 (last) on the list, with a 20-14-1 (8) mark for 313 PPs, as his only win came in the GBU title tilt with British FLY Joe Symonds. Prospects: Frankie Jerome impressed with wins over Tremaine, Marks and Ad Rubidoux (the latter via TKO), but stumbled in his most recent, a SD loss to ex-Champ Al Delmont, to lower his career mark to 12-1 (7). Rubidoux, whose only loss has been to Jerome, is 11-1 (11) thus far. Johnny Brown is 7-0 (6) after a UD 8 over countryman Harry Lake, who moved to 7-1 (6) after the loss. Canadian Howard Mayberry remained unbeaten, as did Filipino Pete Sarmiento; both are off to identical 6-0 (5) starts. Midget Smith suffered a loss (via DQ) and draw with TC opponents and checks in with a 3-1-1 (1) record. Others getting their careers underway were Bud Taylor, at 3-0 (1) and Dynamite Murphy, at 2-0-1 (1). Retirement: Only one BW retirement in 1920. Kid Murphy (USA) 1903-20 42-25-1 (26) WBA Champ Highest Rank: 2 Murphy briefly held the WBA title in 1911, losing it back to Harry Harris in a rematch four months later. Looking Ahead: Herman appears to be set for at least another year as WBA Champ, until he hits Post in 1922. Wolfe, Goldstein and younger fighters like Tremaine, Jerome and Rubidoux may be poised to develop into the next generation of top BW contenders as guys like Williams, Burns, Coulon and Campi fade from the limelight. Look for Memphis and Philly Pal Moore to continue to challenge for top honors. Nine newcomers swell the ranks in 1921, including Brit Teddy Baldock and Americans Eddie "Cannonball" Martin and Charley Phil Rosenberg. Predictions: Struck out (oh-for-four) in 1920, so will shy away from any forecasts for 1921. Well, maybe one -- four new faces in the Top 10 as it looks like several fighters are ready to move up next year. Will also predict another year for Herman as WBA Champ, building his reputation as an ATG BW and also a strong position in the pound-for-pound list.