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Old 03-04-2008, 09:44 PM   #162 (permalink)
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You just can't accurately compare the two. Different sports. Different types of games for different types of gamers. For one thing, the historical aspect of OOTP makes it an entirely different animal.

As for the deeper gameplay...I have played every version of SI's game since CM 01/02, and I have always thought the AI cheats and that 'tactics' really do not work, and that the overwhelming importance of 'tactics' over player quality is far from realistic. Many people on the SI boards agree.


On the other hand, I always have fun with OOTB baseball.
The AI certainly doesnt cheat. And a board full of impatient adolescents whining because they dont have first the imagination and then the patience to work through the tactics doesnt mean that they arent there or the AI is cheating. It takes some experimentation at first to find the tactics that maximize a teams performance. IRL, a very good tactical coach can win consistently with somewhat inferior players.

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I do have fun with FM/WWSM, but the game is not realistic, can be an exercise in frustration and often feels like work, like you are not really running a soccer team but looking for ways to exploit weaknesses in the AI.
This is what real life coaching is. To be a success in the game you have to play close attention to details. If you are lazy, you just wont win. And a coaches job is to find weaknesses in their opponents. Since different AI teams use different tactics there is no one (super) tactic that beat the AI. In fact, the game rewards tactical consistency.

I love OOTP but OOTP is NOT a deep hard-core managing simulation. Its made for simmers that like to pour over stats. It doesnt have the small features that managers must deal with..like training schedules, deep financial modeling and the ability to choose how teams playing style and tactics.
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