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Originally Posted by PSUColonel
No, because IRL you still have hope for player X, but finally just come to the conclusion he may never get there, you are never told outright, "he'll never get there"
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Arbitrary facts like how it works in real life won't convince them if the already aren't. Its much more realistic to know immediately when a guy is toast. Just look at how quickly real GM's know when a player is done 
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