OOTP Developments Forums - View Single Post - An open letter to Markus regarding AI evaluations/decision making

ravinhood · 04-29-2008, 09:11 PM

I like the OP's idea of some players being "untouchable" for trades no matter what (unless of course the player cheats and forces the trade in commisioner mode). Something that is missing in this game that I've seen in other games are "franchise players" those that would normally be in an untouchable mode and no matter what the AI wouldn't trade them off until their stats/attributes start to fail. The AI all too many times will give up quality even playing Hard difficulty trades if the player is patient enough to run through 100's of trade setups to get that player he wants. The AI should be programmed to be aware that when the human player wants to trade with him the human player wants more than he's going to offer most of the time. lol The human player is going to use every exploit hook crook and wheeled deal to get what he wants, but, if the AI is programmed against this then the human player will have to walk away with much less than he wanted to bargain for that particular player he wanted.

The AI program needs to put more value on what it has and what it needs and placing starting pitchers at the top and make it doubley hard for the human player to wrest away those good pitchers the AI has unless it's rebuilding and then it should demand high value prospects still.

I would value trades by the AI in the following order and it should be very hard to get the top few levels by the human players.

1. Starting Pitchers
2. RBI/HR hitters
3. Prospects
4. Closers
5. Defensive position players
6. Base Running/Leadoff Batters/Base Stealers
7. Draft Picks
8. Relief Pitchers
9. Utility players
10. Money

The AI should be more willing to make trades for the botton 6, but, very hard against trades for the top 4. Values for the top four should probably be doubled as their values are usually worth a lot more than a 1 to 1 ratio in most cases vs the human player. I go by the principle that a bird in the hand is worth two (prospects) in the bush. Thus it would be nice if the AI went that direction in trading as well.

Of course the values can adjust and change depending on the AI's level of competition, if rebuilding there's good reason to get rid of some old players that just won't be around or still be good when the team finally does meld, but, teams that are in win now personalities should be very hard to trade with unless they are getting the better deal, just makes sense to me that's the way I would be.

04-29-2008, 09:11 PM	#37 (permalink)
ravinhood Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 241	I like the OP's idea of some players being "untouchable" for trades no matter what (unless of course the player cheats and forces the trade in commisioner mode). Something that is missing in this game that I've seen in other games are "franchise players" those that would normally be in an untouchable mode and no matter what the AI wouldn't trade them off until their stats/attributes start to fail. The AI all too many times will give up quality even playing Hard difficulty trades if the player is patient enough to run through 100's of trade setups to get that player he wants. The AI should be programmed to be aware that when the human player wants to trade with him the human player wants more than he's going to offer most of the time. lol The human player is going to use every exploit hook crook and wheeled deal to get what he wants, but, if the AI is programmed against this then the human player will have to walk away with much less than he wanted to bargain for that particular player he wanted. The AI program needs to put more value on what it has and what it needs and placing starting pitchers at the top and make it doubley hard for the human player to wrest away those good pitchers the AI has unless it's rebuilding and then it should demand high value prospects still. I would value trades by the AI in the following order and it should be very hard to get the top few levels by the human players. 1. Starting Pitchers 2. RBI/HR hitters 3. Prospects 4. Closers 5. Defensive position players 6. Base Running/Leadoff Batters/Base Stealers 7. Draft Picks 8. Relief Pitchers 9. Utility players 10. Money The AI should be more willing to make trades for the botton 6, but, very hard against trades for the top 4. Values for the top four should probably be doubled as their values are usually worth a lot more than a 1 to 1 ratio in most cases vs the human player. I go by the principle that a bird in the hand is worth two (prospects) in the bush. Thus it would be nice if the AI went that direction in trading as well. Of course the values can adjust and change depending on the AI's level of competition, if rebuilding there's good reason to get rid of some old players that just won't be around or still be good when the team finally does meld, but, teams that are in win now personalities should be very hard to trade with unless they are getting the better deal, just makes sense to me that's the way I would be.