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Originally Posted by RonCo
But beyond the GM AI issues, pitchers in OOTP are just overall not well-designed. Very few pitchers should be able to stay in the league if they can't maintain a K/9 ratio over 4.5. But OOTP makes Control and Movement too good across a career (again, we've been able to see this on the Tango charts for quite some time), so you've always been able to find quite a few good pitchers who can't strike anyone out in OOTP leagues. A few is great, mind you...but...well, you get the idea. The problem here is not that Ks drop too fast, but that HRs don't drop fast enough and BB are just too good across the spectrum.
Here is a chart with ERA vs. K/9 plotted in one of my test leagues (with aging/development adjustments). You can see a lot of pitchers with these gosh-awful K/9 ratios are pretty successful when measured by ERA. 43 of the 73 pitchers involved in this chart are 30 yo or younger. Of those 43, 20 have ERA under 5.00.
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Fascinating work, RonCo- and I agree with your findings- but I don't know that a pitcher with a sub 5.00 ERA can be considered a find. I guess my point is, how many of those <5.00 were also below 4.50- because it looks like if 4.50 were the criteria that the 20 might half itself again. I just don't think a guy with 4.85 ERA is all that useful- but I certainly agree that OOTP has more of these guys floating around than in real life.
It certainly seems like a big part of this problem is the AI's proclivity to continue to give these guys innings, which can be marginally improved with the AI settings.