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JCWeb · 08-20-2008, 08:57 PM

Jan 1925 MW Division Profile

Total: 156 RL: 91 TCs: 65

RL by Career Stage:
End - 10
Post - 17
Prime - 37
Pre - 19
Beginning - 8 (3 New)

Rated: 68
800+: 11
500+: 39
200+: 61

Jan 1925 Rankings (Perf Pts and Changes from Jan 1924 in Parens):

Champ: Johnny Wilson 34-15-1 (12) (1088) (+17)
1. Bryan Downey 36-13-3 (15) (1364) (+3)
2. Mickey Walker 25-1 (19) (1339) (-2)
3. Mike O'Dowd 36-9 (15) (1274) (-2)
4. Gordon McKay 24-9 (13) (1115) (+8)
5. Panama Joe Gans 40-7 (18) (1114) (-3)
6. Joe Borrell 35-15-1 (22) (1051) (-1)
7. Tiger Flowers 27-7-1 (13) (941) (+2)
8. Rene DeVos 27-5-2 (14) (940) (-5)
9. Jock Malone 23-8-2 (8) (811) (-1)
10. Frankie Schoell 21-6-3 (9) (802) (NC)

Comments: All above at Prime, except for O'Dowd at Post and Borrell, who hits Post in 1925. Wilson, who made a dramatic surge, going 4-0 in 1924, still has four MWs with higher PP totals. Downey had a five-bout win streak snapped by the lost to Panama Joe Gans. Walker bounced back from his unfortunate title loss wiht a UD 10 over Jack McVey and KO 2 versus O'Dowd. McKay also made a surprising move by taking the NABF title, to go with a TKO over Oakland Jimmy Duffy while suffering a SD loss to aging veteran Al McCoy. Gans had a busy 1924, winning four of six contests, registering UDs over M. Gibbons, Schoell and Malone in addition to his title tilts. Borrell kept the USBA belt but lost to Downey, so no real progress this year. Flowers won three of four, but suffered a TKO loss to O'Dowd and did not progress further; he had an impressive UD 10 win over DeVos, the now ex-Champ. DeVos had won seven straight before dropping the title contest with Wilson and the UD loss to Flowers. Malone split two bouts in 1924, losing to Gans but stopping Phil Kaplan. Finally, Schoell clings to the #10 spot, going 2-2 for the year with wins over Rowland and Mike Gibbons but losses for the title and also to Gans.

Other Notables: Jack McCarron slid five spots to #11, losing both bouts during the year, a TKO loss to Mike Gibbons and a UD loss to Wilson. Taking an even steeper drop was Al Grayber, who went 0-4 for the year and dropped from #7 all the way down to #23. Moody, holder of the CBU and GBU titles, is ranked #20 with 29-10-3 (10) mark that is worth 661 PPs; he dropped a split duke to Battling Ortega that negated the positive impact of two successful title defenses. One spot below at #21 is Billy Bird, who impressed with a UD over Grayber and a TW 9 versus Jackie Clark. Billy Shade won four of five to finish the year at #22. Top newcomer to the rankings is Brit Tommy Milligan, who won 16 of his first 17 before dropping a TKO to George Robinson; his 16-2 (13) is good for 25th spot in the rankings. German Hein Domgorgen checks in one spot below, his best win a TKO 2 over Ted Moore.

Prospects: Cuban Kid Charol suffered his first loss (TKO at the hands of Domgorgen) but bounced back with a UD over Larry Estridge to finish the year at 13-1 (8). Estridge had been unbeaten until running into Charol and Domgorgen, plus he was held to a draw by Billy Angelo and slipped to 11-2-1 (10). Ace Hudkins is off to a 12-1 (10) career start, the only blemish a TKO loss to a TC. Likewise, Soldier Eddie Burnbrook sports an identical 12-1 (10) mark, his one defeat coming at the hands of Billy Angelo via a KO 7. Canada's George Fifield is 10-2 (6), suffering a UD 10 loss to Homer Robertson, who checks in at 10-2 (4). Still unbeaten at 9-0 (5) is Joe Roche, all versus TCs. Austria's Poldi Steinbach is 9-0 (7), including a UD 8 over Edouard Tenet for the Frenchman's first loss. Filipino Ceferino Garcia is off to a 6-0 (4) start; Vince Dundee won his first five to go 5-0 (2), and Gorilla Jones won his first two during the year.

Retirements: Four MWs left the ranks during 1924.

Gus Christie (USA) 30-19-3 (14) No Titles Highest Rank: 16
Silent Martin (USA) 26-21-1 (11) No Titles Highest Rank: 23
George Chip (USA) 32-26-4 (15) No Titles Highest Rank: 19
Gus Platts (USA) 26-27-4 (11) EBU, GBU Champ Highest Rank: 22

Chip's career was particularly disappointing. He never could seem to score that big win to set him up for a championship fight.

Looking Ahead: This division is getting tough to predict, with some surprises during 1924. With 10 fighters at End and many more at Post, it is also an aging division. Walker was expected to dominate, but he suffered a surprise loss due to the hand injury. DeVos is still a force, likely to recapture the EBU belt in 1925. None of the current crop of prospects is likely to make a huge immediate impact, and the best of the three newcomers slated to debut in 1925, Enzo Fiermonte of Italy, is only rated a 7.

08-20-2008, 08:57 PM	#556 (permalink)
JCWeb All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 723	1924-Middleweight Part II Jan 1925 MW Division Profile Total: 156 RL: 91 TCs: 65 RL by Career Stage: End - 10 Post - 17 Prime - 37 Pre - 19 Beginning - 8 (3 New) Rated: 68 800+: 11 500+: 39 200+: 61 Jan 1925 Rankings (Perf Pts and Changes from Jan 1924 in Parens): Champ: Johnny Wilson 34-15-1 (12) (1088) (+17) 1. Bryan Downey 36-13-3 (15) (1364) (+3) 2. Mickey Walker 25-1 (19) (1339) (-2) 3. Mike O'Dowd 36-9 (15) (1274) (-2) 4. Gordon McKay 24-9 (13) (1115) (+8) 5. Panama Joe Gans 40-7 (18) (1114) (-3) 6. Joe Borrell 35-15-1 (22) (1051) (-1) 7. Tiger Flowers 27-7-1 (13) (941) (+2) 8. Rene DeVos 27-5-2 (14) (940) (-5) 9. Jock Malone 23-8-2 (8) (811) (-1) 10. Frankie Schoell 21-6-3 (9) (802) (NC) Comments: All above at Prime, except for O'Dowd at Post and Borrell, who hits Post in 1925. Wilson, who made a dramatic surge, going 4-0 in 1924, still has four MWs with higher PP totals. Downey had a five-bout win streak snapped by the lost to Panama Joe Gans. Walker bounced back from his unfortunate title loss wiht a UD 10 over Jack McVey and KO 2 versus O'Dowd. McKay also made a surprising move by taking the NABF title, to go with a TKO over Oakland Jimmy Duffy while suffering a SD loss to aging veteran Al McCoy. Gans had a busy 1924, winning four of six contests, registering UDs over M. Gibbons, Schoell and Malone in addition to his title tilts. Borrell kept the USBA belt but lost to Downey, so no real progress this year. Flowers won three of four, but suffered a TKO loss to O'Dowd and did not progress further; he had an impressive UD 10 win over DeVos, the now ex-Champ. DeVos had won seven straight before dropping the title contest with Wilson and the UD loss to Flowers. Malone split two bouts in 1924, losing to Gans but stopping Phil Kaplan. Finally, Schoell clings to the #10 spot, going 2-2 for the year with wins over Rowland and Mike Gibbons but losses for the title and also to Gans. Other Notables: Jack McCarron slid five spots to #11, losing both bouts during the year, a TKO loss to Mike Gibbons and a UD loss to Wilson. Taking an even steeper drop was Al Grayber, who went 0-4 for the year and dropped from #7 all the way down to #23. Moody, holder of the CBU and GBU titles, is ranked #20 with 29-10-3 (10) mark that is worth 661 PPs; he dropped a split duke to Battling Ortega that negated the positive impact of two successful title defenses. One spot below at #21 is Billy Bird, who impressed with a UD over Grayber and a TW 9 versus Jackie Clark. Billy Shade won four of five to finish the year at #22. Top newcomer to the rankings is Brit Tommy Milligan, who won 16 of his first 17 before dropping a TKO to George Robinson; his 16-2 (13) is good for 25th spot in the rankings. German Hein Domgorgen checks in one spot below, his best win a TKO 2 over Ted Moore. Prospects: Cuban Kid Charol suffered his first loss (TKO at the hands of Domgorgen) but bounced back with a UD over Larry Estridge to finish the year at 13-1 (8). Estridge had been unbeaten until running into Charol and Domgorgen, plus he was held to a draw by Billy Angelo and slipped to 11-2-1 (10). Ace Hudkins is off to a 12-1 (10) career start, the only blemish a TKO loss to a TC. Likewise, Soldier Eddie Burnbrook sports an identical 12-1 (10) mark, his one defeat coming at the hands of Billy Angelo via a KO 7. Canada's George Fifield is 10-2 (6), suffering a UD 10 loss to Homer Robertson, who checks in at 10-2 (4). Still unbeaten at 9-0 (5) is Joe Roche, all versus TCs. Austria's Poldi Steinbach is 9-0 (7), including a UD 8 over Edouard Tenet for the Frenchman's first loss. Filipino Ceferino Garcia is off to a 6-0 (4) start; Vince Dundee won his first five to go 5-0 (2), and Gorilla Jones won his first two during the year. Retirements: Four MWs left the ranks during 1924. Gus Christie (USA) 30-19-3 (14) No Titles Highest Rank: 16 Silent Martin (USA) 26-21-1 (11) No Titles Highest Rank: 23 George Chip (USA) 32-26-4 (15) No Titles Highest Rank: 19 Gus Platts (USA) 26-27-4 (11) EBU, GBU Champ Highest Rank: 22 Chip's career was particularly disappointing. He never could seem to score that big win to set him up for a championship fight. Looking Ahead: This division is getting tough to predict, with some surprises during 1924. With 10 fighters at End and many more at Post, it is also an aging division. Walker was expected to dominate, but he suffered a surprise loss due to the hand injury. DeVos is still a force, likely to recapture the EBU belt in 1925. None of the current crop of prospects is likely to make a huge immediate impact, and the best of the three newcomers slated to debut in 1925, Enzo Fiermonte of Italy, is only rated a 7.