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Curtis · 10-31-2008, 11:27 PM

SUGGESTION: When playing in historical leagues prior to Curt Flood, or in a fictional league without free agency, there should be a pretty hefty positive modifier to 'desire to play on a winning team'.

REASON: During a fair part of the 20th century there was an informal designation of clubs as being 'first division' or 'second division', meaning finishing in the top or bottom half of their league. This wasn't just a prestige designation, though, as the players actually received bonuses to their salary if their team finished in the first division. Fourth place players received a certain amount, third place twice as much, second place three times as much, and first place received either the winners' or losers' shares of the World Series money. Especially for journeyman players this could be the equivalent of a HUGE raise.

I propose that, in leagues without free agency in the modern sense, a player's desire to win be treated as though it was equal to his generated desire to win plus half his greed. This would be used for calculating both his morale and his salary demands. In other words, he would be happier while playing for a winning team and would expect a lower base salary since he would be counting on the bonus money to more than make up the difference.

Instead of adding a flat 50% of greed, it could be a variable number based on where he expects the team to finish (ie. +10% for fourth place, +20% for third, +30% for second, +40% for first or +50% if expected to win the WS).

The actual money wouldn't neccessarily have to be paid out, but if you decided to go that route giving a bonus of 10% of minimum salary for finishing fourth and increasing the others appropriately wouldn't be out of line. (Probably shouldn't go above +15/30/45/60/75%.)

Note that the actual 'desire to win' wouldn't change, it would just be modified within the game engine, and the modifier would be dropped when modern free agency came into use.

Note also that historically this gave teams reason other than pride to play hard right to the end of the season. The difference between finishing fifth and fourth (or fourth and third, etc.) was often close to the amount to buy a used car or put a down payment on a house.

PRIORITY: After all of that, low.

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Curtis Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Watertown, New York Posts: 4,530 Thanks: 1 Thanked 108x in 91 posts	SUGGESTION: When playing in historical leagues prior to Curt Flood, or in a fictional league without free agency, there should be a pretty hefty positive modifier to 'desire to play on a winning team'. REASON: During a fair part of the 20th century there was an informal designation of clubs as being 'first division' or 'second division', meaning finishing in the top or bottom half of their league. This wasn't just a prestige designation, though, as the players actually received bonuses to their salary if their team finished in the first division. Fourth place players received a certain amount, third place twice as much, second place three times as much, and first place received either the winners' or losers' shares of the World Series money. Especially for journeyman players this could be the equivalent of a HUGE raise. I propose that, in leagues without free agency in the modern sense, a player's desire to win be treated as though it was equal to his generated desire to win plus half his greed. This would be used for calculating both his morale and his salary demands. In other words, he would be happier while playing for a winning team and would expect a lower base salary since he would be counting on the bonus money to more than make up the difference. Instead of adding a flat 50% of greed, it could be a variable number based on where he expects the team to finish (ie. +10% for fourth place, +20% for third, +30% for second, +40% for first or +50% if expected to win the WS). The actual money wouldn't neccessarily have to be paid out, but if you decided to go that route giving a bonus of 10% of minimum salary for finishing fourth and increasing the others appropriately wouldn't be out of line. (Probably shouldn't go above +15/30/45/60/75%.) Note that the actual 'desire to win' wouldn't change, it would just be modified within the game engine, and the modifier would be dropped when modern free agency came into use. Note also that historically this gave teams reason other than pride to play hard right to the end of the season. The difference between finishing fifth and fourth (or fourth and third, etc.) was often close to the amount to buy a used car or put a down payment on a house. PRIORITY: After all of that, low. __________________ 2012 — The year for Inside The Park 2!