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djday45 · 11-20-2008, 08:45 AM

Really a journeyman fighter. If I dont mention the rating as usual you know I agree with it.

FOULS - Often. Willi was DQ once and was known as quite a rough fighter to tangle with sometimes.

GO FOR KNOCKOUT - 1. He had twenty ko's to his name so although a light hitter he should have this option.

CONDITIONING - 8. Fights too frequently, suits him as the archetypeal journeyman. Willi often fought nearly every month during his career.

CONTROL VS BOXER -8. This control factors up a point. Besmanoff although never rated by the ring in its annual top ten was always in that next group of fighters under the rankings acting like a gatekeeper to the ratings a solid 8 here in this suits him well.

CONTROL VS SLUGGER - 6. Down one, all his worst performances seemed to come against pure punchers like Chuvalo, Liston, Foster, only against boxers did he put in his best results and even in defeat performed well eg. Ali See above.

CHIN VS KNOCKOUT -3. Degrade this by two. Umm not sure what they were thinking here as he was ko'd 11 times. Yes they were later on in his career but it has to be said he was still very vulnerable even so. I think a 3 is still a little generous maybe.

RECOVERY -4. Degrading this substantially again as he often fell apart in stoppage losses, the first Chuvalo fight down six times is a great example.

RESISTANCE TO CUTS -3. An improvment here, as although he had a problem with cuts and it effected a couple of results it wasant at a omg Henry Cooper level of problem.

ABSORB PUNISHMENT - 3. A one here? I dont think so he was tko'd seven times five of those due to two much punishment.

HITTING POWER -3. Up two. He had 19 ko's on his record against light opposition from 51 victories. A power rating of three is about right.

OVERALL RATING -3. Down one, the game overated his durability, he will and should get stopped often depending on the opposition you throw him in against (stopped 11 times in reality) and act as a limited gatekeeper in your universe.

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djday45 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,474 Thanks: 3 Thanked 19x in 12 posts	Willi Besmanoff Really a journeyman fighter. If I dont mention the rating as usual you know I agree with it. FOULS - Often. Willi was DQ once and was known as quite a rough fighter to tangle with sometimes. GO FOR KNOCKOUT - 1. He had twenty ko's to his name so although a light hitter he should have this option. CONDITIONING - 8. Fights too frequently, suits him as the archetypeal journeyman. Willi often fought nearly every month during his career. CONTROL VS BOXER -8. This control factors up a point. Besmanoff although never rated by the ring in its annual top ten was always in that next group of fighters under the rankings acting like a gatekeeper to the ratings a solid 8 here in this suits him well. CONTROL VS SLUGGER - 6. Down one, all his worst performances seemed to come against pure punchers like Chuvalo, Liston, Foster, only against boxers did he put in his best results and even in defeat performed well eg. Ali See above. CHIN VS KNOCKOUT -3. Degrade this by two. Umm not sure what they were thinking here as he was ko'd 11 times. Yes they were later on in his career but it has to be said he was still very vulnerable even so. I think a 3 is still a little generous maybe. RECOVERY -4. Degrading this substantially again as he often fell apart in stoppage losses, the first Chuvalo fight down six times is a great example. RESISTANCE TO CUTS -3. An improvment here, as although he had a problem with cuts and it effected a couple of results it wasant at a omg Henry Cooper level of problem. ABSORB PUNISHMENT - 3. A one here? I dont think so he was tko'd seven times five of those due to two much punishment. HITTING POWER -3. Up two. He had 19 ko's on his record against light opposition from 51 victories. A power rating of three is about right. OVERALL RATING -3. Down one, the game overated his durability, he will and should get stopped often depending on the opposition you throw him in against (stopped 11 times in reality) and act as a limited gatekeeper in your universe.