[Rocco Del Sesto]

Originally Posted by djday45

Yep Rocco you are right looking at him the datbase does him a real disservice. lets look at him in detail, as usual if I dont mention a rating I agree with it.

Conditioning - 2. As usual with my ratings I dont like giving out ones here unless the guy was known to be a one of the fittest and best guys of his era.

Draw Power -3. Down two, he was a minor draw with the UK but not enough for a 5.

Intellect - 6. Up two. He was particuarly effective against boxers so raising it here to reflect he had some nous in the ring.

Control Vs Boxer -9. Up two. he was one of those guys who did well against stand off boxers. look at his results against Bugner, Cooper and others then look at his defeats against Quarry and Spencer. One of those fighters who could look really good against one type and pretty awful against the other.

Chin Vs Knockdown -3. Up two. He actually had a good to average chin, the datbase is totally misrepresenting him here in his knockdown, knockout and recovery ratings, he suffered nearly every stoppage defeat as a TKO, sometimes even quitting, only the Quarry defeat was a real KO and that was when he was past it.
His chin was pretty good his bravery and heart sucked, he should be suffering lots of tko stoppages without knockdowns in your uni, not be on the canvas again anf again.

Chin vs Knockout -2. Up three, See above.

Recovery -2. Up two, see above.

Absorb Punishment - 5. Down two. It's here he really is bad and should be here where he is stopped, I know a 5 rating is very bad but he suffered tko after tko and this will make him that vulnerable and also inconsistent as he was in life.

Hitting Power -6. Up three. He was not a bad puncher with 31 ko's from 58 wins. He was quite capable of outlasting opponents especially of lower calibre.
And when looking at his record you can see many of these stoppages come in the middle rounds. A three is far two low for him, a six is accurate.

Punching -36. Up one level. He was slow but not massively so and was quite a skilled amateur picking up a European medal. Making him just slightly worse than my average of 38 is about right.

Counter Punching -32. Down one level. He was def not a counterer though and reducing this down to 32 reinforces this.

Overall Rating - 5. Way up by four. May seem too much for people but again look at his record, he defeated Bugner, Roman, London, Walker, Prescott, Daniels and Ramos in his career, this enables him to do that in your game. BUT, with that horrible TKO rating and him being so bad against sluggers he will still lose quickly and badly to guys like Quarry and Spencer and if he got the chance in your uni to the monsters of the era like Frazier and Foreman.

At this rating he is not going to win a world title but he will sometimes come into contention before his big weakness rears its ugly head again. And he will certainly be a factor at the European and British level as he should be.

Hi Dean,

Here's a file I posted over on the Database Forum for Mark(IceTea) to look at. I split Bodell out into two ratings, one for LHW which he fought at in 1962 and then in 1963 he began fighting as a HW. I play tested both of these. I'll post the rating file and the two sample schedules I used play testing If you'd like to take a look at them. I've not even looked at my ratings yet compared to what you posted so I'm not sure how they work out. I only came out with an overall rating of 3 though for Bodell. I'll take a look at your ratings though and see what it does to it

Thanks for your imput.

Rocco