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Originally Posted by Russ
All this would do is make the Yankees pay 33% more than the Twins. If the Twins are willing to go to 20M of their own money, the Yankees would be more than willing to go to 30M to sign Mauer. The one limit the Yankees have, and IMO the most important one, is every team has a 25 man roster. They still have players like Jerry Hairston and Brett Gardner and Ramiro Pena on their team.
I'm an O's fan but come on. Time for teams to mount up.
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And the Yankees paying 33% more than the Twins makes it so the Twins have a better shot at signing a player. As much as we like to believe it, the Yankees won't spend an infinite amount of money on a player. They will have their limits, otherwise every single free agent that they even bid on would end up in pinstripes. It's just their limits are substantially higher than other teams. I believe this would fix that.
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Originally Posted by Skipaway
Unions would love it, since it would bid up salaries. So owners won't take it.
It would probably ensure other than the very rich teams, nobody can afford free agents.
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It can't bid up salaries THAT much. A team's budget will still be the same. The amount they can spend on players will still be the same. In the examples below of Meche and Guillen... the same damn thing would happen. If the Yankees didn't sign them under the current system, why would it be any different under the proposed system? The only difference is the team that developed the player has a chance to sign them cheaper. I don't see how it would ensure that only the very rich teams sign free agents.
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Originally Posted by thomamon
This makes no sense what so ever when you stop and think about it. Where does the money come from to help pay Mauer's contract if he stays with the Twins.
Another thing to note, its not that the Twins or other teams don't have the money to sign these players. They just choose to pocket the money and not use it to better their team. So if one teams goal is making as much money as possible and pocketing as much as they could and another team has a goal of winning and using every resource they can. They both accomplish their goal, however, the fans are the ones who get screwed.
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The money comes from the luxury tax and revenue sharing agreements. Instead of that money just being spread amongst all teams, the pool is there to resign your own players meaning owners wouldn't see a penny of it unless they... you know... spent it.
And your second paragraph is exactly the problem I'm trying to correct. Currently, teams like the Pirates just pocket the money they receive from the rest of the league. They don't have to make the team better. Under the proposed system, the only way they GET that money is if they try to make their team better and keep the players they've developed.
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Originally Posted by Skipaway
I think you are misinformed. Currently, pricey free agents go to small teams a lot.
Look at Kansas City signed Jose Guillen to $36m and Gil Meche to $55m. They wouldn't get to overpay 30% for them with the new system. What they get to do is to keep their own free agents.
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They don't need to overpay 30%. Prices will not escalate by that amount. The overall league salary would go up by roughly the amount the certain small owners "pocket" from revenue sharing, which I'm guessing works out to 5% at most. In the proposed situation, Meche's $55 million deal could be offered by the Mariners, and instead of paying $55 million (though that's what Meche himself would collect), they would only have to pay $38.5M of their own money to make the same offer. Guillen's contract wouldn't be any different at all given he wasn't finishing his rookie contract with the team he came up with.