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moore4807 · 06-15-2004, 05:01 AM

Big Train....
I'm reading this thread and noticed - the Rommel fellow and Charlie Hough share one sparkling trait * the knuckleball*. While this pitch allowed Hough to extend his career, I hardly think it improved Hough's W/L record or "took away" 299 hits that would have been attributed to other pitchers on his staff pitching instead of him... There should be a review of knuckleballers vs. knuckleballers, power pitchers vs. power pitchers, etc. the stats can be manipulated to appear to what someone wants them to appear IMHO.
This is one of the reasons I'm satisfied with DIPS until an algorthym is developed for each pitch type and useage (speed/movement/location) and the batters can do more (bat speed/contact vs. power/hi vs. low -n- inside vs. outside) than swing freely and bunt. I'm not taking ANYTHING away from what has been created in OOTP (good job Markus!) but, until this type of game is created - then we will all have to accept a less than perfect re-creation of America's pastime!

06-15-2004, 05:01 AM	#20 (permalink)
moore4807 Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2002 Location: Blackwood Posts: 97	Opposite view??? Big Train.... I'm reading this thread and noticed - the Rommel fellow and Charlie Hough share one sparkling trait * the knuckleball*. While this pitch allowed Hough to extend his career, I hardly think it improved Hough's W/L record or "took away" 299 hits that would have been attributed to other pitchers on his staff pitching instead of him... There should be a review of knuckleballers vs. knuckleballers, power pitchers vs. power pitchers, etc. the stats can be manipulated to appear to what someone wants them to appear IMHO. This is one of the reasons I'm satisfied with DIPS until an algorthym is developed for each pitch type and useage (speed/movement/location) and the batters can do more (bat speed/contact vs. power/hi vs. low -n- inside vs. outside) than swing freely and bunt. I'm not taking ANYTHING away from what has been created in OOTP (good job Markus!) but, until this type of game is created - then we will all have to accept a less than perfect re-creation of America's pastime!