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Old 06-04-2002, 05:25 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Actually, I shouldn't say I agree with him on the positional weights. I think it's ridiculous that he gives catchers a 19% stake, by default, of the defensive win shares. There's no way a catcher is worth more than a shortstop in terms of generating wins for a team. He has an effect, which can be observed via team ERA, but stolen bases/caught stealing are practically worthless in terms of winning and almost every other chance that a modern catcher is credited for is a strikeout.

A shortstop or modern second baseman (post-1930) has a much larger effect on the offense that is being generated against his team than James gives credit for, IMHO. I don't think catchers deserve much more of a share than first basemen do. Aside from a marginal effect on the team ERA, because of the way they handle a pitching staff, they're basically useless.

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