Sneak Preview of Iatric's Reference Utility

Dargone · 05-28-2002, 10:42 PM

Awesome

Thanks, once again, for allowing me the honor of checking your utility out. I sent you an e-mail with plenty of a$$ kissing but I told you I'd send some more love your way on the boards. I just ran the utility with my main solo league and I'm crying right now. Seriously. The new format was the way to go, by the way. Looks very polished. I think I'll check out my star thirdbaseman's page, oh that's what his secondary average is

I'm crying, seriously. If there was a graemlin for tears of joy, I'd be using three right now...

Scott Vibert · 05-29-2002, 03:27 AM

I got it first <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Hope the directions worked out alright, not sure how much Iatric changed what I compiled for him.

I may have a few years uploaded this evening.

Dargone · 05-29-2002, 12:48 PM

It was easy enough to follow Scott, only noticed one typo that I informed Iatric about. It was more of my mistake hurrying to use the utility <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> I can't say enough about how awesome this utility is. It'll alow you to do the kind of analysis with your fictional/online league that people do with real baseball stats. Want to know who was the best power hitter at home, who has the best home earned run average, etc...I know a favorite of mine will be the ability to check a player's career postseason stats. Hold on, I need some more tissues

[ 05-29-2002, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: Dargone ]

munstermash · 05-29-2002, 04:01 PM

You guys are making me jealous!

Scott Vibert · 05-29-2002, 05:07 PM

FWIW the Wallman Reference Utility looks very good also!

chrisj · 05-29-2002, 05:11 PM

Wallman's does look really good - and very east to use.

Haven't seen Iatric's (besides the previews he's posted)... but both should be great.

Dargone · 05-29-2002, 07:35 PM

Hey Scott or Iatric, I noticed the retired link works on the utility but in the instructions it didn't say to make a csv file of retired players. Is there a way to get the retired players to show up and if so what would the name of the retired players file have to be?

Willy · 05-29-2002, 08:26 PM

Dargone,
It looks like the page is there and he just might have to finish up some work on it. The links across the top are all dead so they are probably not complete yet..My guess would be that you output the Retired Players data from the reporter but that is just my guess. Im sure he will have it up and running soon. I have it working without a problem through a season. Very straight forward to use.

Willy

IatricSB · 05-29-2002, 10:16 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dargone:
Hey Scott or Iatric, I noticed the retired link works on the utility but in the instructions it didn't say to make a csv file of retired players. Is there a way to get the retired players to show up and if so what would the name of the retired players file have to be?<hr /></blockquote>You don't have to do anything special to get the retired players to show up assuming you've have the files from the past seasons. For example, with Boys of Summer, I had the league files for 1904 thru 1910. When I exported 1904, all players are exported, but some retire before 1905. They will show up since I was able to export the csv files for 1904 so it shows their last season. In 1905, they aren't in the CSV files, so their career ends there as far as the stats. The retired page then looks at the most recent year you have exported. In my case, that is 1910. It then compares the current year to the last year that shows up for a player. If the last year is prior to the current year (which 1904 would be), the player would be flagged as retired and appear on the retired player index.

However, If I didn't have the previous years files and started with 1910, the only players I would see are those still in the league in 1910 and not any of the retired players. In this case, here's what I'd do. For the first year you still have the league file for, in addition to exporting the team and free agent files, you could also export the retired players (using some naming format like 1910_RET_RET.csv for the file name if 1910 was the first year you had... don't export retired players from any of the later years since the player will still be there... only your first year).

Hope this makes sense and to be honest, I haven't tried it so I don't know what kind of data will be exported by the CSV reporter. Demographics and ratings would be there, but I have no idea whether any stats would show up or not.

Did you not see any retired players at all?

Willy · 05-29-2002, 10:23 PM

Iatric,
That makes sense.... I didn't have any players at all but I had only done it for a single season thus far... Just about to finish up a second one now. I was getting an error [run-time 13] a bit earlier with it but as I think of it now I think I messed something up with the reporter exports..

Dargone · 05-29-2002, 10:24 PM

Thanks Iatric. I only exported my current league year which is 1952. I haven't progressed into 1953 which explains why I haven't seen any retired players yet, right? My understanding is that as soon as I save some stats from my next season I'll see all the retired players that retired after 1952? I'll just be missing those players that retired after 1951 and earlier correct? Thanks again

Dargone · 05-30-2002, 04:53 AM

Scott I ran into a problem using the utility. I e-mailed Iatric but perhaps you can help me. When creating the csv files for my second season and then trying to update the html I'm receiving this error:

Runtime error 62
Input post end of file

I even deleted and was able to run the program with only my first season's csv files. However, if I tried to run the program with the csv files from the two seasons, I continue to receive this error. Does this have to do with the beta perhaps? Thanks, for any and all responses

IatricSB · 05-30-2002, 05:58 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dargone:
Scott I ran into a problem using the utility. I e-mailed Iatric but perhaps you can help me. When creating the csv files for my second season and then trying to update the html I'm receiving this error:

Runtime error 62
Input post end of file

I even deleted and was able to run the program with only my first season's csv files. However, if I tried to run the program with the csv files from the two seasons, I continue to receive this error. Does this have to do with the beta perhaps? Thanks, for any and all responses

<hr /></blockquote>Bug squashed. For some reason, the CSV reporter created a blank player line. I added code to ignore blank player lines.

Scott Vibert · 05-30-2002, 05:59 AM

No, it generally means you have a messed up .csv file (not enough fields)... did you potentially try to edit any of the .csv files, especially in Excel, or even just save the file in Excel? (Excel can't load the entire file, so it will cause problems if you try to look at the file and then save it)

Edit - Iatric beat me too it, I can create that error or a similar one by messing up the .csv files <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

[ 05-30-2002, 12:00 PM: Message edited by: ScottVib ]

05-28-2002, 10:42 PM	#1
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Sneak Preview of Iatric's Reference Utility Awesome Thanks, once again, for allowing me the honor of checking your utility out. I sent you an e-mail with plenty of a$$ kissing but I told you I'd send some more love your way on the boards. I just ran the utility with my main solo league and I'm crying right now. Seriously. The new format was the way to go, by the way. Looks very polished. I think I'll check out my star thirdbaseman's page, oh that's what his secondary average is I'm crying, seriously. If there was a graemlin for tears of joy, I'd be using three right now... __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

05-29-2002, 12:48 PM	#3
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	It was easy enough to follow Scott, only noticed one typo that I informed Iatric about. It was more of my mistake hurrying to use the utility <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> I can't say enough about how awesome this utility is. It'll alow you to do the kind of analysis with your fictional/online league that people do with real baseball stats. Want to know who was the best power hitter at home, who has the best home earned run average, etc...I know a favorite of mine will be the ability to check a player's career postseason stats. Hold on, I need some more tissues <small>[ 05-29-2002, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: Dargone ]</small> __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

05-29-2002, 05:11 PM	#6
chrisj All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Edmonton, Alberta (but still wishing I was in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada) Posts: 834	Wallman's does look really good - and very east to use. Haven't seen Iatric's (besides the previews he's posted)... but both should be great. __________________ Canadian Baseball League -- Commissioner -- Calgary GM

05-29-2002, 07:35 PM	#7
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Hey Scott or Iatric, I noticed the retired link works on the utility but in the instructions it didn't say to make a csv file of retired players. Is there a way to get the retired players to show up and if so what would the name of the retired players file have to be? __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

05-29-2002, 08:26 PM	#8
Willy Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Regina, Sk Posts: 443	Dargone, It looks like the page is there and he just might have to finish up some work on it. The links across the top are all dead so they are probably not complete yet..My guess would be that you output the Retired Players data from the reporter but that is just my guess. Im sure he will have it up and running soon. I have it working without a problem through a season. Very straight forward to use. Willy __________________ Consoles are for little kids.

05-29-2002, 03:27 AM	#2
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,182	I got it first <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Hope the directions worked out alright, not sure how much Iatric changed what I compiled for him. I may have a few years uploaded this evening.

05-29-2002, 04:01 PM	#4
munstermash Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 260	You guys are making me jealous!

05-29-2002, 05:07 PM	#5
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,182	FWIW the Wallman Reference Utility looks very good also!

05-29-2002, 10:16 PM	#9
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Dargone: <strong>Hey Scott or Iatric, I noticed the retired link works on the utility but in the instructions it didn't say to make a csv file of retired players. Is there a way to get the retired players to show up and if so what would the name of the retired players file have to be?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You don't have to do anything special to get the retired players to show up assuming you've have the files from the past seasons. For example, with Boys of Summer, I had the league files for 1904 thru 1910. When I exported 1904, all players are exported, but some retire before 1905. They will show up since I was able to export the csv files for 1904 so it shows their last season. In 1905, they aren't in the CSV files, so their career ends there as far as the stats. The retired page then looks at the most recent year you have exported. In my case, that is 1910. It then compares the current year to the last year that shows up for a player. If the last year is prior to the current year (which 1904 would be), the player would be flagged as retired and appear on the retired player index. However, If I didn't have the previous years files and started with 1910, the only players I would see are those still in the league in 1910 and not any of the retired players. In this case, here's what I'd do. For the first year you still have the league file for, in addition to exporting the team and free agent files, you could also export the retired players (using some naming format like 1910_RET_RET.csv for the file name if 1910 was the first year you had... don't export retired players from any of the later years since the player will still be there... only your first year). Hope this makes sense and to be honest, I haven't tried it so I don't know what kind of data will be exported by the CSV reporter. Demographics and ratings would be there, but I have no idea whether any stats would show up or not. Did you not see any retired players at all? __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards

05-29-2002, 10:23 PM	#10
Willy Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Regina, Sk Posts: 443	Iatric, That makes sense.... I didn't have any players at all but I had only done it for a single season thus far... Just about to finish up a second one now. I was getting an error [run-time 13] a bit earlier with it but as I think of it now I think I messed something up with the reporter exports.. __________________ Consoles are for little kids.

05-29-2002, 10:24 PM	#11
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Thanks Iatric. I only exported my current league year which is 1952. I haven't progressed into 1953 which explains why I haven't seen any retired players yet, right? My understanding is that as soon as I save some stats from my next season I'll see all the retired players that retired after 1952? I'll just be missing those players that retired after 1951 and earlier correct? Thanks again __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

05-30-2002, 04:53 AM	#12
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Scott I ran into a problem using the utility. I e-mailed Iatric but perhaps you can help me. When creating the csv files for my second season and then trying to update the html I'm receiving this error: Runtime error 62 Input post end of file I even deleted and was able to run the program with only my first season's csv files. However, if I tried to run the program with the csv files from the two seasons, I continue to receive this error. Does this have to do with the beta perhaps? Thanks, for any and all responses __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

05-30-2002, 05:58 AM	#13
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Dargone: <strong>Scott I ran into a problem using the utility. I e-mailed Iatric but perhaps you can help me. When creating the csv files for my second season and then trying to update the html I'm receiving this error: Runtime error 62 Input post end of file I even deleted and was able to run the program with only my first season's csv files. However, if I tried to run the program with the csv files from the two seasons, I continue to receive this error. Does this have to do with the beta perhaps? Thanks, for any and all responses </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Bug squashed. For some reason, the CSV reporter created a blank player line. I added code to ignore blank player lines. __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards

05-30-2002, 05:59 AM	#14
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,182	No, it generally means you have a messed up .csv file (not enough fields)... did you potentially try to edit any of the .csv files, especially in Excel, or even just save the file in Excel? (Excel can't load the entire file, so it will cause problems if you try to look at the file and then save it) Edit - Iatric beat me too it, I can create that error or a similar one by messing up the .csv files <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <small>[ 05-30-2002, 12:00 PM: Message edited by: ScottVib ]</small>