OOTP4 developers check out PC Action Baseball

Night2000 · 05-07-2002, 11:56 PM

Hey guys I just saw some of the features for the new Playaction baseball game. The way they have their baseball reports, and league leaders are the type of things we should have for our beloved OOTP4! Check out what they are doing over there.
<a href="http://www.dksports.com/baseball.htm" target="_blank">Playaction Baseball</a>

bbo4 · 05-08-2002, 01:52 AM

Uh oh OOTP, look's like a challenger is coming in. Those reports and screen shots look awesome.
I wonder if the ability for a career mode and player import is there?

Steve Kuffrey · 05-08-2002, 02:02 AM

This is another "replay" type game (DMB, SOM, etc). Some nice features and options but no import, no career, etc.....

Different type game.

bbo4 · 05-08-2002, 02:07 AM

Well, to bad for Action Baseball then.

Subby · 05-08-2002, 03:11 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Steve Kuffrey:
This is another "replay" type game (DMB, SOM, etc). Some nice features and options but no import, no career, etc.....Different type game.<hr /></blockquote>That doesn't change the fact that their baseball reports and league leaders look great.

Sortable stats would be a nice feature.

Malleus Dei · 05-08-2002, 04:00 AM

What Subby said.

blynch10 · 05-08-2002, 04:23 AM

Hmmm for 49.95 I'd hope for more then just a replay game. Must be spoiled by OOTP. I never pay more then $30 for a game anymore. I either wait for the bargain bin or just don't buy. There are very few games actually worth what they charge anymore, and the time I actually spend playing the expensive ones never seems cost effective.

Although it never hurts to have other games come out, helps add to the wish list for OOTP.

(Just got Sega Gt and NHRA drag racing in a two-pack bundle for 9.99 at best buy.)

[ 05-08-2002, 10:24 AM: Message edited by: blynch10 ]

J P Falcon · 05-08-2002, 05:55 AM

In addition, looking at their football game, the price for additional season disks will not be inexpensive either. I'm kind of spoiled, downloading a season from the Lahman database and replaying it for free...

Scott Vibert · 05-08-2002, 06:05 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by blynch10:
Hmmm for 49.95 I'd hope for more then just a replay game. Must be spoiled by OOTP<hr /></blockquote>The sad thing is this is right in line with what fixes to be the games main competitors in the replay market (DMB, SOM)... hey if people are willing to pay that...

I'll just continue to be more than happy with a career game, all historical seasons for free, and the ability to have fictional leagues.. for less than what it costs to have those things with the replays....

I do agree that it can't hurt to look at other games for inspiration though...

(EDITORIAL WARNING: I am not a huge fan of replay type games, doesn't seem as much fun to me to know that Player A will hit within a few points of .312 before the season starts.. to me the replayers are good tools/models, where as something like OOTP is more of a game, not constrained by real life, but adequately simulating what could happen, with enough volitility/variability to keep it interesting; both have their niches and both do what they are intended to do quite well, I just prefer one flavor of sim (OOTP) to the others (the assorted replay games) ).

[ 05-08-2002, 12:12 PM: Message edited by: ScottVib ]

Henry · 05-08-2002, 06:30 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />
(EDITORIAL WARNING: I am not a huge fan of replay type games, doesn't seem as much fun to me to know that Player A will hit within a few points of .312 before the season starts.. to me the replayers are good tools/models, where as something like OOTP is more of a game, not constrained by real life, but adequately simulating what could happen, with enough volitility/variability to keep it interesting; both have their niches and both do what they are intended to do quite well, I just prefer one flavor of sim (OOTP) to the others (the assorted replay games) ).<hr /></blockquote>Scott - an excellent "qualifier" !!

If you have no objection, I may come up something very similar... kind of "sets the stage" on your answers to people

[ 05-08-2002, 12:30 PM: Message edited by: Henry ]

Steve Kuffrey · 05-08-2002, 06:33 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Subby:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Steve Kuffrey:
This is another "replay" type game (DMB, SOM, etc). Some nice features and options but no import, no career, etc.....Different type game.<hr /></blockquote>That doesn't change the fact that their baseball reports and league leaders look great.

Sortable stats would be a nice feature.<hr /></blockquote>Subby,

Wasn't trying to "blow that part off" at all. Hence my comment..."nice features".

Night2000 · 05-08-2002, 06:35 AM

OOTPers, I didn't post this topic to get people interested in Playaction baseball. I just think the way they have their reports and sortable stats is excellent. I'm hoping Markus can get inspired and create these type of reports for our beloved OOTP4. Steve I think you can see what I'm saying?

Steve Kuffrey · 05-08-2002, 07:29 AM

100%

[ 05-08-2002, 01:29 PM: Message edited by: Steve Kuffrey ]

obaslg · 05-08-2002, 07:47 AM

I loved the FPS stats display - not only sortable - you could specify exactly what stats would show on each screen, so you could have overall season STATS showing on the roster screen, but RATINGS v.R showing on your v.R lineup screen, etc.

Scott Vibert · 05-08-2002, 09:44 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Henry:
Scott - an excellent "qualifier" !!

If you have no objection, I may come up something very similar... kind of "sets the stage" on your answers to people

<hr /></blockquote>Do with it as you wish.... no issues with it from me...

HolyCow98 · 05-08-2002, 11:31 AM

I too just don't find replaying a game that the results are almost always about the same everytime you play it. I'm very happy with OOTP's career style.

Although I would love it even more with those type of reports. (hint, hint)

blynch10 · 05-08-2002, 03:43 PM

Night 2000,

Didn't think you were promoting. You are right on the nice set up on reporting. It's always fun finding cool concepts and thinking, I bet Markus could do that.

dickysty · 05-08-2002, 03:45 PM

What I want more than anything else in my OOTP world is sortable stats, umm and team records. Please take note Markus, I'm sure you have.

biggamejrs · 05-08-2002, 05:34 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by obaslg:
I loved the FPS stats display - not only sortable - you could specify exactly what stats would show on each screen, so you could have overall season STATS showing on the roster screen, but RATINGS v.R showing on your v.R lineup screen, etc.<hr /></blockquote>I have been saying this since version 2. I really liked that way of sorting. I was told then that doing that would be very time consuming.(Not by Markus but by another poster.) Maybe this can be implemented.
James
Go Braves!!!
Well, If you can't go, at least score some runs!!!

statfreak · 05-08-2002, 06:19 PM

The game might be worth it just to be able to play head to head over the internet. If only OOTP could implement this feature that was considered for OOTP3, but did not find it's way in.

I can't be the only person asking for this, can I?

[ 05-09-2002, 12:19 AM: Message edited by: sttfrk ]

05-07-2002, 11:56 PM	#1
Night2000 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Monroe, NJ Posts: 716	OOTP4 developers check out PC Action Baseball Hey guys I just saw some of the features for the new Playaction baseball game. The way they have their baseball reports, and league leaders are the type of things we should have for our beloved OOTP4! Check out what they are doing over there. <a href="http://www.dksports.com/baseball.htm" target="_blank">Playaction Baseball</a> __________________ http://night2000.blogspot.com/ This post has the Al Bundy and Homer Simpson stamp of approval!

05-08-2002, 01:52 AM	#2
bbo4 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: South of Boston, Ma Posts: 214	Uh oh OOTP, look's like a challenger is coming in. Those reports and screen shots look awesome. I wonder if the ability for a career mode and player import is there? __________________ "In 1962 I was named Minor League Player of the Year. It was my second season in the Bigs."

05-08-2002, 02:02 AM	#3
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,022	This is another "replay" type game (DMB, SOM, etc). Some nice features and options but no import, no career, etc..... Different type game. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

05-08-2002, 02:07 AM	#4
bbo4 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: South of Boston, Ma Posts: 214	Well, to bad for Action Baseball then. __________________ "In 1962 I was named Minor League Player of the Year. It was my second season in the Bigs."

05-08-2002, 03:11 AM	#5
Subby Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 375	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Steve Kuffrey: <strong>This is another "replay" type game (DMB, SOM, etc). Some nice features and options but no import, no career, etc.....Different type game.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That doesn't change the fact that their baseball reports and league leaders look great. Sortable stats would be a nice feature.

05-08-2002, 04:23 AM	#7
blynch10 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 273	Hmmm for 49.95 I'd hope for more then just a replay game. Must be spoiled by OOTP. I never pay more then $30 for a game anymore. I either wait for the bargain bin or just don't buy. There are very few games actually worth what they charge anymore, and the time I actually spend playing the expensive ones never seems cost effective. Although it never hurts to have other games come out, helps add to the wish list for OOTP. (Just got Sega Gt and NHRA drag racing in a two-pack bundle for 9.99 at best buy.) <small>[ 05-08-2002, 10:24 AM: Message edited by: blynch10 ]</small>

05-08-2002, 05:55 AM	#8
J P Falcon Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NJ Posts: 406	In addition, looking at their football game, the price for additional season disks will not be inexpensive either. I'm kind of spoiled, downloading a season from the Lahman database and replaying it for free...

05-08-2002, 06:05 AM	#9
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,182	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by blynch10: <strong>Hmmm for 49.95 I'd hope for more then just a replay game. Must be spoiled by OOTP</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The sad thing is this is right in line with what fixes to be the games main competitors in the replay market (DMB, SOM)... hey if people are willing to pay that... I'll just continue to be more than happy with a career game, all historical seasons for free, and the ability to have fictional leagues.. for less than what it costs to have those things with the replays.... I do agree that it can't hurt to look at other games for inspiration though... (EDITORIAL WARNING: I am not a huge fan of replay type games, doesn't seem as much fun to me to know that Player A will hit within a few points of .312 before the season starts.. to me the replayers are good tools/models, where as something like OOTP is more of a game, not constrained by real life, but adequately simulating what could happen, with enough volitility/variability to keep it interesting; both have their niches and both do what they are intended to do quite well, I just prefer one flavor of sim (OOTP) to the others (the assorted replay games) ). <small>[ 05-08-2002, 12:12 PM: Message edited by: ScottVib ]</small>

05-08-2002, 06:30 AM	#10
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> (EDITORIAL WARNING: I am not a huge fan of replay type games, doesn't seem as much fun to me to know that Player A will hit within a few points of .312 before the season starts.. to me the replayers are good tools/models, where as something like OOTP is more of a game, not constrained by real life, but adequately simulating what could happen, with enough volitility/variability to keep it interesting; both have their niches and both do what they are intended to do quite well, I just prefer one flavor of sim (OOTP) to the others (the assorted replay games) ).</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Scott - an excellent "qualifier" !! If you have no objection, I may come up something very similar... kind of "sets the stage" on your answers to people <small>[ 05-08-2002, 12:30 PM: Message edited by: Henry ]</small>

05-08-2002, 06:33 AM	#11
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,022	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Subby: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Steve Kuffrey: <strong>This is another "replay" type game (DMB, SOM, etc). Some nice features and options but no import, no career, etc.....Different type game.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That doesn't change the fact that their baseball reports and league leaders look great. Sortable stats would be a nice feature.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Subby, Wasn't trying to "blow that part off" at all. Hence my comment..."nice features". __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

05-08-2002, 06:35 AM	#12
Night2000 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Monroe, NJ Posts: 716	OOTPers, I didn't post this topic to get people interested in Playaction baseball. I just think the way they have their reports and sortable stats is excellent. I'm hoping Markus can get inspired and create these type of reports for our beloved OOTP4. Steve I think you can see what I'm saying? __________________ http://night2000.blogspot.com/ This post has the Al Bundy and Homer Simpson stamp of approval!

05-08-2002, 07:29 AM	#13
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,022	100% <small>[ 05-08-2002, 01:29 PM: Message edited by: Steve Kuffrey ]</small> __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

05-08-2002, 07:47 AM	#14
obaslg All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 887	I loved the FPS stats display - not only sortable - you could specify exactly what stats would show on each screen, so you could have overall season STATS showing on the roster screen, but RATINGS v.R showing on your v.R lineup screen, etc. __________________ Realy good musition of many insterments, including the hyperbolic vitriol.

05-08-2002, 09:44 AM	#15
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,182	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Henry: <strong>Scott - an excellent "qualifier" !! If you have no objection, I may come up something very similar... kind of "sets the stage" on your answers to people </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Do with it as you wish.... no issues with it from me...

05-08-2002, 11:31 AM	#16
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	I too just don't find replaying a game that the results are almost always about the same everytime you play it. I'm very happy with OOTP's career style. Although I would love it even more with those type of reports. (hint, hint) __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

05-08-2002, 03:43 PM	#17
blynch10 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 273	Night 2000, Didn't think you were promoting. You are right on the nice set up on reporting. It's always fun finding cool concepts and thinking, I bet Markus could do that.

05-08-2002, 03:45 PM	#18
dickysty Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 348 Blog Entries: 21	What I want more than anything else in my OOTP world is sortable stats, umm and team records. Please take note Markus, I'm sure you have. __________________ NABA - Baltimore Blue Claw's Dynasty

05-08-2002, 05:34 PM	#19
biggamejrs Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Greenville, USA Posts: 212	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by obaslg: <strong>I loved the FPS stats display - not only sortable - you could specify exactly what stats would show on each screen, so you could have overall season STATS showing on the roster screen, but RATINGS v.R showing on your v.R lineup screen, etc.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I have been saying this since version 2. I really liked that way of sorting. I was told then that doing that would be very time consuming.(Not by Markus but by another poster.) Maybe this can be implemented. James Go Braves!!! Well, If you can't go, at least score some runs!!! __________________ Go Braves!!

05-08-2002, 06:19 PM	#20
statfreak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 2,435	The game might be worth it just to be able to play head to head over the internet. If only OOTP could implement this feature that was considered for OOTP3, but did not find it's way in. I can't be the only person asking for this, can I? <small>[ 05-09-2002, 12:19 AM: Message edited by: sttfrk ]</small> __________________ Roll out the barrel!