Earned runs charged incorrectly?

ctorg · 04-23-2008, 08:28 AM

This is from a game whose box and log I saved a while back with the intention of posting here but which I'd forgotten about.

Please see the attached log of the ninth inning and the resulting pitchers' lines from the box score.

Here's the basic summary:

I brought in the pitcher St-Hillaire. He promptly gave up a single, a single, and a walk. I removed him from the game because, well, he was being ineffective.

I then brought in Heath. The first batter hit into a fielder's choice. The next batter struck out. The batter after that hit a bases-clearing double. The final batter flied out.

Three runs scored in the inning. Two of the runs were charged to St-Hillaire and one was charged to Heath.

This doesn't seem right to me. The first batter Heath faced did reach, but it was on a fielder's choice. The run should still be charged to St-Hillaire, shouldn't it?

I can't seem to find the rules for this. Is this scored correctly or not?

Sdpm100 · 04-23-2008, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctorg

I can't seem to find the rules for this. Is this scored correctly or not?

No it isn't. All three runs go to St Hillaire. The force out is probably what causes the issue.

Here is the rule:
10.16(g) When pitchers are changed during an inning, the official scorer shall not charge the relief pitcher with any run (earned or unearned) scored by a runner who was on base at the time such relief pitcher entered the game, nor for runs scored by any runner who reaches base on a fielder’s choice that puts out a runner left on base by any preceding pitcher.

ctorg · 04-23-2008, 10:02 AM

Okay, thanks. Moving to tech support then.

Nutlaw · 04-23-2008, 08:42 PM

Which version of the game were you using when generating these results?

ctorg · 04-24-2008, 07:53 AM

I don't have the game here now, but it was the last patch for OOTP2007 (not OOTP8). Is this something that was fixed in OOTP8?

Nutlaw · 05-04-2008, 10:39 AM

I have no idea if this is still around, as that's now two versions back from our current builds. I'll link to this thread for the PbP beta testers to alert them to the potential issue. Thanks!

04-23-2008, 08:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
ctorg Moderator* Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 9,252	Earned runs charged incorrectly? This is from a game whose box and log I saved a while back with the intention of posting here but which I'd forgotten about. Please see the attached log of the ninth inning and the resulting pitchers' lines from the box score. Here's the basic summary: I brought in the pitcher St-Hillaire. He promptly gave up a single, a single, and a walk. I removed him from the game because, well, he was being ineffective. I then brought in Heath. The first batter hit into a fielder's choice. The next batter struck out. The batter after that hit a bases-clearing double. The final batter flied out. Three runs scored in the inning. Two of the runs were charged to St-Hillaire and one was charged to Heath. This doesn't seem right to me. The first batter Heath faced did reach, but it was on a fielder's choice. The run should still be charged to St-Hillaire, shouldn't it? I can't seem to find the rules for this. Is this scored correctly or not? Attached Images __________________ THE VERY US ARTISTS - A project for musicians and visual artists My music Currently reading: The Elric Saga by Michael Moorecock "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

04-23-2008, 10:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
ctorg Moderator* Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 9,252	Okay, thanks. Moving to tech support then. __________________ THE VERY US ARTISTS - A project for musicians and visual artists My music Currently reading: The Elric Saga by Michael Moorecock "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

04-23-2008, 08:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
Nutlaw Moderator* Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,151	Which version of the game were you using when generating these results? __________________ Bench Jockey Hardball League: Owner of the Manhattan Crime Over the Mound Baseball League: Owner of the Omaha Evil Friend of The Birdhouse. Go Cards!

04-24-2008, 07:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
ctorg Moderator* Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 9,252	I don't have the game here now, but it was the last patch for OOTP2007 (not OOTP8). Is this something that was fixed in OOTP8? __________________ THE VERY US ARTISTS - A project for musicians and visual artists My music Currently reading: The Elric Saga by Michael Moorecock "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

05-04-2008, 10:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
Nutlaw Moderator* Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,151	I have no idea if this is still around, as that's now two versions back from our current builds. I'll link to this thread for the PbP beta testers to alert them to the potential issue. Thanks! __________________ Bench Jockey Hardball League: Owner of the Manhattan Crime Over the Mound Baseball League: Owner of the Omaha Evil Friend of The Birdhouse. Go Cards!

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