More save issues?

hefalumps · 06-17-2006, 06:13 PM

I'm in spring training and my StartingPitcher went 4 and 1/3 IP and got the win (which apparently is OK cuz there's an exception to the 5 IP win rule in exhibition games), but my reliever who went 4 and 2/3 IP and finished the game didn't get anything. Shouldn't he have gotten a save by the "3 IP" save rule? Or is that rule different in exhbition games as well?

Screenshot attached. Our team was leading the entire game and had the lead when Haynes left. Final score was 7-3.

hefalumps · 06-21-2006, 07:47 PM

Bump... can anyone explain from baseball rules why Krivda didn't qualify for a save under the "last three IP" rule?

jeter6970 · 06-21-2006, 08:48 PM

According to the rules it should have been a save -- but I'm not sure if that is different during spring training. I read the rule at mlb.com and it didn't give any exceptions for exhibition games.

mrbill · 06-21-2006, 09:31 PM

I've heard around here that in Spring Training games, they give the win to the starter ignoring the 5 IP rule, probably because in ST starters rarely go 5 IP and its expected.

Jazzmosis · 06-21-2006, 09:42 PM

I think I remember reading that if a pitcher throws more than half a game, he can't be awarded with a save... In this case, he threw 1 out over half...

hefalumps · 06-21-2006, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzmosis

I think I remember reading that if a pitcher throws more than half a game, he can't be awarded with a save... In this case, he threw 1 out over half...

That's interesting - I had never seen that before. I'll have to research it. Thanks.

SC_Dawg · 06-22-2006, 12:09 AM

Here is a link to MLB's rule 10 (The Official Scorer Rule)

http://baseball-almanac.com/rule10.shtml

Rule 10.20 in particular is where the save criteria is spelled out. Now the only way this pitcher did not qualify for a save is if somehow the game's "official scorer" deemed his performance "ineffective".

Now I would classify this as a bug given the pitcher met all of the criteria for a save.

battists · 07-14-2006, 10:41 PM

Sorry for the late response. This may have already been fixed, but I logged it all the same, TT # 2266.

Thanks,

Steve

battists · 07-17-2006, 09:14 AM

This issue has been claimed fixed in the next patch, but it has not been verified yet.

Thanks,

Steve

battists · 08-03-2006, 03:47 PM

This issue has been fixed and verified in the latest version of the game.

Thanks,

Steve

06-17-2006, 06:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
hefalumps All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 797 Thanked 63x in 43 posts	More save issues? I'm in spring training and my StartingPitcher went 4 and 1/3 IP and got the win (which apparently is OK cuz there's an exception to the 5 IP win rule in exhibition games), but my reliever who went 4 and 2/3 IP and finished the game didn't get anything. Shouldn't he have gotten a save by the "3 IP" save rule? Or is that rule different in exhbition games as well? Screenshot attached. Our team was leading the entire game and had the lead when Haynes left. Final score was 7-3. Attached Images Last edited by hefalumps; 06-17-2006 at 06:14 PM.

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06-21-2006, 07:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
hefalumps All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 797 Thanked 63x in 43 posts	Bump... can anyone explain from baseball rules why Krivda didn't qualify for a save under the "last three IP" rule?

06-21-2006, 08:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
jeter6970 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 46	According to the rules it should have been a save -- but I'm not sure if that is different during spring training. I read the rule at mlb.com and it didn't give any exceptions for exhibition games.

06-22-2006, 12:09 AM	#7 (permalink)
SC_Dawg All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Columbia, South Carolina Posts: 643	Here is a link to MLB's rule 10 (The Official Scorer Rule) http://baseball-almanac.com/rule10.shtml Rule 10.20 in particular is where the save criteria is spelled out. Now the only way this pitcher did not qualify for a save is if somehow the game's "official scorer" deemed his performance "ineffective". Now I would classify this as a bug given the pitcher met all of the criteria for a save.

07-14-2006, 10:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
battists OOTP Developments Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 17,024 Blog Entries: 7 Thanked 703x in 194 posts	Sorry for the late response. This may have already been fixed, but I logged it all the same, TT # 2266. Thanks, Steve

07-17-2006, 09:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
battists OOTP Developments Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 17,024 Blog Entries: 7 Thanked 703x in 194 posts	This issue has been claimed fixed in the next patch, but it has not been verified yet. Thanks, Steve

08-03-2006, 03:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
battists OOTP Developments Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 17,024 Blog Entries: 7 Thanked 703x in 194 posts	This issue has been fixed and verified in the latest version of the game. Thanks, Steve