Leagues no longer import historical rookies

TheBishop · 07-30-2006, 04:28 PM

Not sure what happened between the 2nd part of the patch and the finalized version, but the game has actually become more unplayable for me now with no end in sight.

I've made a couple dummy historical leagues, both starting in 1950. The leagues import fine, the first draft goes fine, then nothing afterwards. I didn't notice this until the 2nd try today (I posted that I was getting the illegal roster problem for the first time; I might know why now), but not one draft has happened in either league since the inaugral year of said leagues. I changed nothing on how I was importing players, the game was importing them just fine as is without my touching it. It looks setup to do so, but it just isn't doing it. I'd change something, but it's setup right, so there's gotta be something else wrong.

It's stuff like this that makes it more and more obvious that SI has no intentions of making a game that allows historical play. Just so much going wrong, it feels like purely historical players are being squeezed out. I was already having a blah time getting into this version, this is just one more nail in the coffin.

hrc333 · 07-30-2006, 04:46 PM

So I have just run into a very strange problem. I am running a universe with 4 leagues. Two of the leagues are not having drafts. Two of the leagues are having thier draft fine.

The game says the draft pool will be publish on a certain date. I sim till that date but it just sims right past the date. I stop the sim and there is no draft pool and now the next draft is schedule for the next year. Interstingly there is a amature draft on the first year the league is created but not on any other years. As I said this is happening to two of the four leagues in my universe. I have started this universe twice from the world template and the same thing happens.

SPECS: I am running the most current update for OSX. I know most of the staff is on vacation, but am hoping someone has an anwser for this.

Here is a screen shot that shows this year draft is scheduled for next year!!

RonCo · 07-30-2006, 05:04 PM

I'm wondering if the "automatically import historical rookies" box was checked on your creation process. I'm guessing not. I don't do historicals, but I think this used to be checked by default and no longer is.

Steve Kuffrey · 07-30-2006, 05:38 PM

Also, I just tried two different leagues with the only difference being that with the 1st the db was on my "D drive" and 2nd the db was on my "C drive". 1st league the game stopped @ the draft time and gave me a "cannot find db" message, league 2 played through and the players were drafted.

TheBishop · 07-30-2006, 05:51 PM

The box is checked on the automatic import players

I only have one HD in this system

Steve Kuffrey · 07-30-2006, 06:44 PM

Did you UNCHECK ammy draft option?

TheBishop · 07-30-2006, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Kuffrey

Did you UNCHECK ammy draft option?

No, it's still checked. As I said, I didn't change anything from the way I was doing it before, when it was actually working. I did try to turn it off and back on, but nothing.

However, I closed the game, reopened it and it now says it can't find the database, which hasn't moved from where it's been located since I installed the game. I've put in the address to where it's located on my system by hand, incase it somehow was wrong, but it was the same exact address.

Every league I've started since installing the final patch has had this problem.

Markmeister · 07-30-2006, 07:54 PM

TheBishop,

You are drafting the historical players - correct?

This problem has already been reported in a similar post here

What is happening is that the draft is getting rescheduled to the next year when OOTP imports the schedule on the first day of the preseason.

The easy work around is to go into the Options tab in game setup and uncheck the "Auto adjust date if matching XML schedule is found'. This will stop the schedule importing, but you will have same schedule every year.

The tougher work around is to stop on the first day of the preseason each year and change the draft date back to the current year.

Hope this helps.

Markmeister · 07-30-2006, 07:57 PM

I just posted what the problem is and a work around here.

Hope this helps.

Mark

Markmeister · 07-30-2006, 08:13 PM

Shoot - unchecking the XML box doesn't work. Schedule is still updating.

Different work around. Go to the "Other Functions" button and select "Edit Schedule" . On the schedule screen, select "Schedule" and "Export to File". The default name should work. Select "Import from File" and import the schedule you just exported. Schedule should remain the same from year to year.

TheBishop · 07-30-2006, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markmeister

Shoot - unchecking the XML box doesn't work. Schedule is still updating.

Different work around. Go to the "Other Functions" button and select "Edit Schedule" . On the schedule screen, select "Schedule" and "Export to File". The default name should work. Select "Import from File" and import the schedule you just exported. Schedule should remain the same from year to year.

Unfortunately, the draft still doesn't happen, but I appreciate the help. This is the oddest problem I've ever had involving lahman/other databases.

TheBishop · 07-30-2006, 08:51 PM

Oddly enough, I can import a player from lahman with no problem........

hrc333 · 07-31-2006, 02:49 AM

Ok...so this does not change anything. I am using fictional league with fictional players. I have unchecked XML schedule and still am skiping the draft. This is definately a new problem since the last WIP build. I was using this template in ***58 but it is now having problems in ***62.

This is very frustrating since I have spent a month refining my template to only arrive at a point where it is unplayable.

hrc333 · 07-31-2006, 02:51 AM

I am having the same problem, but I am doing a fictional league with fictional players. My draft gets scheduled for the next year in 2 of my 4 leagues in my universe.

You can see my describition and screen shots here.

Tiger Fan · 07-31-2006, 06:15 PM

I have posted a testtrack note for Markus to address the issue. It is TT2414. Until then, there is a temporary workaround listed in this thread

hrc333 · 07-31-2006, 06:28 PM

None of the workarounds have worked for me, except to manually reschedule the draft at the beginning of each season. This is hardly a workaround since I like to sim around 30 seasons in one night. Now I can only do one at a time and then manually change the draft date. So instead of 30 seasons in one night, it now takes 30 nights.

Tiger Fan · 07-31-2006, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hrc333

None of the workarounds have worked for me, except to manually reschedule the draft at the beginning of each season. This is hardly a workaround since I like to sim around 30 seasons in one night.

I sim the same way so I understand your frustration. If you kept the previous (work in progress) patch on your cpu you could reinstall and use it until Markus returns from vacation to address the problem.

I am sure this issue will be at the top of his list when he returns.

Until then all I can suggest is do what I am doing in the meantime...simming a little slower and spending a little time getting to know the players and teams in my league.

Markmeister · 07-31-2006, 07:49 PM

The work around is doing just fine for me.

I've attached a screenshot. When you export the schedule, the default file name should be schedule_XXX where XXX is the league initials. Import this schedule back in.

If this doesn't work, I am out of ideas.

hrc333 · 07-31-2006, 08:35 PM

TigerFan: I don't mind waiting. The main reason I am simming so large of chunks at a time is because I am trying to tweak my universe settings so I can get it to perform the way I would like. Once I get the settings the way I want, then I am going to slow down and enjoy the league with the settings I have fine tuned.

battists · 08-20-2006, 11:27 AM

I am merging this thread with another one. This has been logged as issue # 2414. It has been claimed fixed in the next version of the game, which is good news...

07-30-2006, 04:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
TheBishop Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 165 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Leagues no longer import historical rookies Not sure what happened between the 2nd part of the patch and the finalized version, but the game has actually become more unplayable for me now with no end in sight. I've made a couple dummy historical leagues, both starting in 1950. The leagues import fine, the first draft goes fine, then nothing afterwards. I didn't notice this until the 2nd try today (I posted that I was getting the illegal roster problem for the first time; I might know why now), but not one draft has happened in either league since the inaugral year of said leagues. I changed nothing on how I was importing players, the game was importing them just fine as is without my touching it. It looks setup to do so, but it just isn't doing it. I'd change something, but it's setup right, so there's gotta be something else wrong. It's stuff like this that makes it more and more obvious that SI has no intentions of making a game that allows historical play. Just so much going wrong, it feels like purely historical players are being squeezed out. I was already having a blah time getting into this version, this is just one more nail in the coffin. __________________ Pappy's Baseball Union thread at BBSC Pappy's Baseball Union home page

07-30-2006, 04:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
hrc333 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Skips Draft!!! So I have just run into a very strange problem. I am running a universe with 4 leagues. Two of the leagues are not having drafts. Two of the leagues are having thier draft fine. The game says the draft pool will be publish on a certain date. I sim till that date but it just sims right past the date. I stop the sim and there is no draft pool and now the next draft is schedule for the next year. Interstingly there is a amature draft on the first year the league is created but not on any other years. As I said this is happening to two of the four leagues in my universe. I have started this universe twice from the world template and the same thing happens. SPECS: I am running the most current update for OSX. I know most of the staff is on vacation, but am hoping someone has an anwser for this. Here is a screen shot that shows this year draft is scheduled for next year!! __________________ "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." --Soren Kierkegaard Last edited by hrc333; 07-30-2006 at 04:51 PM.

07-30-2006, 05:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 16,933 Thanks: 14 Thanked 4x in 3 posts	Also, I just tried two different leagues with the only difference being that with the 1st the db was on my "D drive" and 2nd the db was on my "C drive". 1st league the game stopped @ the draft time and gave me a "cannot find db" message, league 2 played through and the players were drafted. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays No longer an active league.

07-30-2006, 05:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
TheBishop Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 165 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	The box is checked on the automatic import players I only have one HD in this system __________________ Pappy's Baseball Union thread at BBSC Pappy's Baseball Union home page

07-30-2006, 06:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 16,933 Thanks: 14 Thanked 4x in 3 posts	Did you UNCHECK ammy draft option? __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays No longer an active league.

07-30-2006, 05:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 6,566 Thanks: 21 Thanked 149x in 67 posts	I'm wondering if the "automatically import historical rookies" box was checked on your creation process. I'm guessing not. I don't do historicals, but I think this used to be checked by default and no longer is.

07-30-2006, 07:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
Markmeister Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 463 Thanks: 11 Thanked 29x in 26 posts	TheBishop, You are drafting the historical players - correct? This problem has already been reported in a similar post here What is happening is that the draft is getting rescheduled to the next year when OOTP imports the schedule on the first day of the preseason. The easy work around is to go into the Options tab in game setup and uncheck the "Auto adjust date if matching XML schedule is found'. This will stop the schedule importing, but you will have same schedule every year. The tougher work around is to stop on the first day of the preseason each year and change the draft date back to the current year. Hope this helps. __________________ It's not that baseball has ever had a shortage of ways to embarrass yourself -- dropping an easy flyball, being the one guy Heathcliff Slocumb actually struck out, realizing you're Bud Selig... Jersey style logos Vintage letter logos Vintage uniforms

07-30-2006, 07:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
Markmeister Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 463 Thanks: 11 Thanked 29x in 26 posts	I just posted what the problem is and a work around here. Hope this helps. Mark __________________ It's not that baseball has ever had a shortage of ways to embarrass yourself -- dropping an easy flyball, being the one guy Heathcliff Slocumb actually struck out, realizing you're Bud Selig... Jersey style logos Vintage letter logos Vintage uniforms

07-30-2006, 08:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
Markmeister Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 463 Thanks: 11 Thanked 29x in 26 posts	Shoot - unchecking the XML box doesn't work. Schedule is still updating. Different work around. Go to the "Other Functions" button and select "Edit Schedule" . On the schedule screen, select "Schedule" and "Export to File". The default name should work. Select "Import from File" and import the schedule you just exported. Schedule should remain the same from year to year. __________________ It's not that baseball has ever had a shortage of ways to embarrass yourself -- dropping an easy flyball, being the one guy Heathcliff Slocumb actually struck out, realizing you're Bud Selig... Jersey style logos Vintage letter logos Vintage uniforms

07-30-2006, 08:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
TheBishop Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 165 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Oddly enough, I can import a player from lahman with no problem........ __________________ Pappy's Baseball Union thread at BBSC Pappy's Baseball Union home page

07-31-2006, 02:49 AM	#13 (permalink)
hrc333 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Ok...so this does not change anything. I am using fictional league with fictional players. I have unchecked XML schedule and still am skiping the draft. This is definately a new problem since the last WIP build. I was using this template in *58 but it is now having problems in *62. This is very frustrating since I have spent a month refining my template to only arrive at a point where it is unplayable. __________________ "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." --Soren Kierkegaard

07-31-2006, 02:51 AM	#14 (permalink)
hrc333 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I am having the same problem, but I am doing a fictional league with fictional players. My draft gets scheduled for the next year in 2 of my 4 leagues in my universe. You can see my describition and screen shots here. __________________ "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." --Soren Kierkegaard

07-31-2006, 06:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 5,443 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3x in 2 posts	I have posted a testtrack note for Markus to address the issue. It is TT2414. Until then, there is a temporary workaround listed in this thread __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles My current dynasty - Fictional Breda Baseball League

07-31-2006, 06:28 PM	#16 (permalink)
hrc333 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	None of the workarounds have worked for me, except to manually reschedule the draft at the beginning of each season. This is hardly a workaround since I like to sim around 30 seasons in one night. Now I can only do one at a time and then manually change the draft date. So instead of 30 seasons in one night, it now takes 30 nights. __________________ "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." --Soren Kierkegaard

07-31-2006, 07:49 PM	#18 (permalink)
Markmeister Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 463 Thanks: 11 Thanked 29x in 26 posts	The work around is doing just fine for me. I've attached a screenshot. When you export the schedule, the default file name should be schedule_XXX where XXX is the league initials. Import this schedule back in. If this doesn't work, I am out of ideas. Attached Images __________________ It's not that baseball has ever had a shortage of ways to embarrass yourself -- dropping an easy flyball, being the one guy Heathcliff Slocumb actually struck out, realizing you're Bud Selig... Jersey style logos Vintage letter logos Vintage uniforms

07-31-2006, 08:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
hrc333 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	TigerFan: I don't mind waiting. The main reason I am simming so large of chunks at a time is because I am trying to tweak my universe settings so I can get it to perform the way I would like. Once I get the settings the way I want, then I am going to slow down and enjoy the league with the settings I have fine tuned. __________________ "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." --Soren Kierkegaard

08-20-2006, 11:27 AM	#20 (permalink)
battists OOTP Developments Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 17,189 Blog Entries: 7 Thanks: 31 Thanked 776x in 220 posts	I am merging this thread with another one. This has been logged as issue # 2414. It has been claimed fixed in the next version of the game, which is good news...

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