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Old 09-18-2006, 03:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Deleting Messages

Is there any way to delete messages? I think this is what is slowing my game down...with 4 leagues, plus minors, that's A LOT of messages. And all my major leagues have messages saved for 8 years.

If you CAN'T delete these, that should be an option in the future, as I read none of them.
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The messages are stored in text at:

C:\Program Files\Sports Interactive\OOTP Baseball 2006\data\saved_games\1920AA.lg\messages

Give it a try, delete them. (Back the league up first).

Report back.

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Old 09-18-2006, 09:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The messages are stored in text at:

C:\Program Files\Sports Interactive\OOTP Baseball 2006\data\saved_games\1920AA.lg\messages

Give it a try, delete them. (Back the league up first).

Report back.

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You are the man!!! I did that, and the game loaded up 10 times as quick as before. Of course I'm going to have to do that every couple years, but it worked. Thanks so much!
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You are the man!!! I did that, and the game loaded up 10 times as quick as before. Of course I'm going to have to do that every couple years, but it worked. Thanks so much!
I did this, and yes the game loads and saves much quicker. And who needs all of those messages?

One additional point. You may want to also delete your message.dat file at the same time. If you don't, then the message.dat file appears to create an equal amount of empty message files as it had before when you start the game. They're empty, so they are not uploading any data, but the game has to address them all upon start up.

Deleting the message.dat file forces the game to create a new one with no message file references. Looks cleaner in the game, too, because you don't see empty message boxes on your home pages.

Now, it should go without saying: YMMV. So of course back things up first.

One more hint: You may want to look into some of those news\txt files that you may not need either . . .
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Does anyone have a full list of stuff that can be safely deleted?

Seems that would be quite helpful.
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I did this, and yes the game loads and saves much quicker. And who needs all of those messages?

One additional point. You may want to also delete your message.dat file at the same time. If you don't, then the message.dat file appears to create an equal amount of empty message files as it had before when you start the game. They're empty, so they are not uploading any data, but the game has to address them all upon start up.

Deleting the message.dat file forces the game to create a new one with no message file references. Looks cleaner in the game, too, because you don't see empty message boxes on your home pages.

Now, it should go without saying: YMMV. So of course back things up first.

One more hint: You may want to look into some of those news\txt files that you may not need either . . .
I emptied both the messages folder AND the news folder...and I thought all was well. However, there WERE still empty news items. Also, every player's history was completely deleted, as were all team icons (I have no idea how that happened).
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I emptied both the messages folder AND the news folder...and I thought all was well. However, there WERE still empty news items. Also, every player's history was completely deleted, as were all team icons (I have no idea how that happened).
Woof. This is why I hesitate to dispense advice. It's just that I remembered your predicament, Mattymo. Anyway, it sounds like you:

1) did not delete the message.dat file as well as the messages in the message folder, and
2) deleted the entire news folder which includes two subfolders, html and txt. Within those are two crucial subsubfolders, news\html\images (which contains logos) and news\txt\players (which contains player history).

So, I hope you took my final piece of advice which was to BACK UP your saved game folder before you did any of this.

FYI, this is a note that I wrote to myself:

FILES THAT ARE SAFE TO DELETE TO IMPROVE GAME PERFORMANCE
In the saved game folder:
messages - delete entire contents of this folder; NOTE: ALSO DELETE MESSAGE.DAT.
news\html - delete contents of all folders except images; do not delete the index file.
news\txt - delete contents of leagues and teams folders; do not delete anything from players folder.

The html folder generally just contains html files that the game has generated; reports that you looked at, box scores, etc. All of which you can do without, IMO (except logos).

The txt folder contains history text files, all of which you can do without, IMO (except player histories). BUT, YOUR PREFERENCE MAY BE DIFFERENT. For example, in here are transaction and injury logs from years gone by, who cares? There are also team news files in here that you may want to keep, however, so you might want to look through this folder and its subfolders before you delete anything.

BTW, usually, we are talking about deleting the contents of folders, not the folders themselves. I would leave the folder structure in place, even if some of them are empty.

Well, I'm thinking of self-banishment from this board. I really hope you backed up your game, Mattymo.
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Have you noticed the game saving game logs even though it's not set to save them?

I had around 17,000 game logs in the news\txt\league folder.

I've backed them up and deleted them, but am currently copying my league file elsewhere before I start to sim and see what happens.
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Mattymo: restore them from the recycle bin?
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Does anyone have a full list of stuff that can be safely deleted?

Seems that would be quite helpful.
Bishop - As long as I was involved with Mattymo, who has been having trouble with his game for weeks, I went ahead and answered your question above by publishing the note that I wrote to myself.

I can't stress strongly enough that although we try to help each other on these boards, most of us are not experts and the advice that we give may be faulty, in that what worked for one may not necessarily work for another. That is why "YMMV" and "BACK UP" are in large bold font. Anyone who goes ahead and does things at the suggestion of well-meaning but possibly misinformed posters like me without heeding the first and following the second are asking for trouble.

That being said, my game is running fine.
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Bishop - As long as I was involved with Mattymo, who has been having trouble with his game for weeks, I went ahead and answered your question above by publishing the note that I wrote to myself.

I can't stress strongly enough that although we try to help each other on these boards, most of us are not experts and the advice that we give may be faulty, in that what worked for one may not necessarily work for another. That is why "YMMV" and "BACK UP" are in large bold font. Anyone who goes ahead and does things at the suggestion of well-meaning but possibly misinformed posters like me without heeding the first and following the second are asking for trouble.

That being said, my game is running fine.
Listening to a guy on a message board screwed up my game! I'll sue! I demand restitution! All I want is what's coming to me. All I want is my fair share.


I learned long ago to backup things, since I usually play around and screw things up pretty good. These days I like to let others do that first, and reap the benefits.
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Have you noticed the game saving game logs even though it's not set to save them?

I had around 17,000 game logs in the news\txt\league folder.

I've backed them up and deleted them, but am currently copying my league file elsewhere before I start to sim and see what happens.
Yes, for some reason (I think because you occasionally look at them in-game or after), game log htm files are generated and left in there. Others think that the game generates game logs anyway, but I have never found that many in there and I have the option to save game logs off. Don't forget the sheer amount of games for which logs could have been generated in just a season or two. 30 MLB teams + 6 affiliates each = 210 teams x 120 games per season average (just a guess) / 2 (every team plays another in each log) = 12,600 game logs in one season, if I did the math right. Perhaps these are old game logs from before you turned off the option?
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Listening to a guy on a message board screwed up my game! I'll sue! I demand restitution! All I want is what's coming to me. All I want is my fair share.


I learned long ago to backup things, since I usually play around and screw things up pretty good. These days I like to let others do that first, and reap the benefits.
I guess I took it a bit too seriously at first. This is obvious to us, but not so to someone who is not familiar with computers, perhaps.

But then again, such a person should not be deleting stuff without knowing what he's doing or having backed up first (not saying Mattymo is like that, however). So, let the tinkerer beware!

As far as suing me, start by looking up "1998 Yankees" in the phone book. I'm sure I am listed therein.
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I've got 25 years so far with the full compliment of leagues in the pre-starts, so that number is quite easy to imagine.

As far as the lawsuit, well, I'll just start with Steinbrenner and work my way down, I'll get to you eventually!
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I've got 25 years so far with the full compliment of leagues in the pre-starts, so that number is quite easy to imagine.

As far as the lawsuit, well, I'll just start with Steinbrenner and work my way down, I'll get to you eventually!
Ha! He doesn't even remember me, it's been so long. We had a falling out, years ago, you see . . . I think I'm even out of his will at this point . . .

Besides, my defenses are my erudite posts, which included appropriate warnings absolving myself of liability, and my own game which is running flawlessly. I rest my case and celebrate my victory.
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Woof. This is why I hesitate to dispense advice. It's just that I remembered your predicament, Mattymo. Anyway, it sounds like you:

1) did not delete the message.dat file as well as the messages in the message folder, and
2) deleted the entire news folder which includes two subfolders, html and txt. Within those are two crucial subsubfolders, news\html\images (which contains logos) and news\txt\players (which contains player history).

So, I hope you took my final piece of advice which was to BACK UP your saved game folder before you did any of this.

FYI, this is a note that I wrote to myself:

FILES THAT ARE SAFE TO DELETE TO IMPROVE GAME PERFORMANCE
In the saved game folder:
messages - delete entire contents of this folder; NOTE: ALSO DELETE MESSAGE.DAT.
news\html - delete contents of all folders except images; do not delete the index file.
news\txt - delete contents of leagues and teams folders; do not delete anything from players folder.

The html folder generally just contains html files that the game has generated; reports that you looked at, box scores, etc. All of which you can do without, IMO (except logos).

The txt folder contains history text files, all of which you can do without, IMO (except player histories). BUT, YOUR PREFERENCE MAY BE DIFFERENT. For example, in here are transaction and injury logs from years gone by, who cares? There are also team news files in here that you may want to keep, however, so you might want to look through this folder and its subfolders before you delete anything.

BTW, usually, we are talking about deleting the contents of folders, not the folders themselves. I would leave the folder structure in place, even if some of them are empty.

Well, I'm thinking of self-banishment from this board. I really hope you backed up your game, Mattymo.
No problems 1998 Yankees. First off, I DID backup my game, but didn't even bother restoring it because I'm just simming history right now (and I'm only in 1930, so I'm not worried about players history so much). So now I know better for the future.

No self-banishment, I enjoy seeing the Yankees insignia when I log on

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