Face Gen Problem

Biggio509 · 08-17-2007, 11:56 PM

I am running
Intel Dual Core 6600 processor
ATI X1600 graphics card
4 gigs DDR2 memory
Vista Ultimate (32 bit).

I have all the latest drivers. I thought I would try uninstalling and patching to stop crashes. The problem got worse somehow. I reinstalled patched and then developed a fictional league. After the draft pictures were generated and every time it crashes at around 20% of the pictures generated.

I have pasted cap logos, jersey logos, team logos, and jersey textures to the proper folders in my documents. Could one of the logos be a problem or is there perhaps something else? I think the logos I pasted were from the icy template available at Padre Fan's site.

Biggio509 · 08-18-2007, 12:13 AM

Logos do not seem to be the problem. I tried to build pictures again with a fresh league with standard logos same problem. I am going to try uninstalling and installing again to see if that works. I will post again once I do that.

Biggio509 · 08-18-2007, 01:00 AM

Reinstall didn't fix the problem. I am trying on my laptop. Not near as good specs but it has XP installed. I am still interested in a fix if there is one though.

magnet · 08-18-2007, 01:41 AM

I'm sure one of the Vista guys will come along shortly to tackle any Vista-specific issues.

What kind of hard drive space do you have free?

Biggio509 · 08-18-2007, 04:36 PM

I have 250 GB free on my drive

Tycobbler · 08-19-2007, 04:12 AM

Have you tried running Facegen in troubleshoot mode -OR- create pics On Demand ?

This is what i do, and while i know it isn't the problem slover it is a viable workaround so you can get underway. I personally use the On Demand feature. It creates the pic in the game as you visit each page or player profile.

Try Troubleshoot mode however and see if this helps clear up the matter.

Biggio509 · 08-20-2007, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tycobbler

Have you tried running Facegen in troubleshoot mode -OR- create pics On Demand ?

This is what i do, and while i know it isn't the problem slover it is a viable workaround so you can get underway. I personally use the On Demand feature. It creates the pic in the game as you visit each page or player profile.

Try Troubleshoot mode however and see if this helps clear up the matter.

Tried both. The troubleshoot mode doesn't seem to help. I had the game set for on demand at first and it seemed to randomly crash. I began to notice to it would always crash at the end of a sim when the game was generating pictures for the match ups that day. That is when I tried to update all pictures to see if it was the picture generation crashing and it would crash at some point in generation. Then I tried it with a standard league where no the names didn't match my file names in the graphics folder and it still crashed under trouble shooting.

I do somewhat wonder if it is face gen or a problem perhaps with ID creation. It seems to always crash around the same point in generating graphics somewhere between 20% and 30% done. It does make me wonder if there is a problem with a player or coach ID that causes something to not be able to be saved properly.

I reinstalled XP on another drive and tried the game without any problems. So it is a vista problem or a problem with my install that persisted after reinstalling. I did not delete all files after the uninstall so I suppose it is possible a problem file that was created still exist.

In short I think it is face gen but there could a player or team ID problem that causes the program to crash not when creating the picture but when trying to save the picture to a certain ID. It is definitely only occurring in my vista installation. I have the save game files. Is there something I could look at in them that would give more insight?

Biggio509 · 08-20-2007, 06:25 PM

Problem Solved. I apologize this was not an ootp problem. I thought about the situation more and realized that if it was crashing will saving a picture it could be a bad sector on the hard drive. After running check disk or what ever Vista calls it now, the faces generated without a hitch. So it was a bad sector on my hard drive that ootp was trying to write to.

I am 100% sure because I used the league that was always crashing to test this.

Some one may want to put this in the faq for problems concerning crashes when saving. It is something that people may not think about.

Nutlaw · 08-21-2007, 05:31 PM

Thanks for keeping us updated.

08-17-2007, 11:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
Biggio509 All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,482 Thanks: 32 Thanked 449x in 264 posts	Face Gen Problem I am running Intel Dual Core 6600 processor ATI X1600 graphics card 4 gigs DDR2 memory Vista Ultimate (32 bit). I have all the latest drivers. I thought I would try uninstalling and patching to stop crashes. The problem got worse somehow. I reinstalled patched and then developed a fictional league. After the draft pictures were generated and every time it crashes at around 20% of the pictures generated. I have pasted cap logos, jersey logos, team logos, and jersey textures to the proper folders in my documents. Could one of the logos be a problem or is there perhaps something else? I think the logos I pasted were from the icy template available at Padre Fan's site.

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08-18-2007, 12:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
Biggio509 All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,482 Thanks: 32 Thanked 449x in 264 posts	Logos do not seem to be the problem. I tried to build pictures again with a fresh league with standard logos same problem. I am going to try uninstalling and installing again to see if that works. I will post again once I do that.

08-18-2007, 01:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
Biggio509 All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,482 Thanks: 32 Thanked 449x in 264 posts	Reinstall didn't fix the problem. I am trying on my laptop. Not near as good specs but it has XP installed. I am still interested in a fix if there is one though.

08-18-2007, 04:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
Biggio509 All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,482 Thanks: 32 Thanked 449x in 264 posts	I have 250 GB free on my drive

08-19-2007, 04:12 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tycobbler All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 20 minutes from Comerica Park Posts: 1,723 Thanks: 105 Thanked 39x in 27 posts	Have you tried running Facegen in troubleshoot mode -OR- create pics On Demand ? This is what i do, and while i know it isn't the problem slover it is a viable workaround so you can get underway. I personally use the On Demand feature. It creates the pic in the game as you visit each page or player profile. Try Troubleshoot mode however and see if this helps clear up the matter.

08-20-2007, 06:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
Biggio509 All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,482 Thanks: 32 Thanked 449x in 264 posts	Problem Solved. I apologize this was not an ootp problem. I thought about the situation more and realized that if it was crashing will saving a picture it could be a bad sector on the hard drive. After running check disk or what ever Vista calls it now, the faces generated without a hitch. So it was a bad sector on my hard drive that ootp was trying to write to. I am 100% sure because I used the league that was always crashing to test this. Some one may want to put this in the faq for problems concerning crashes when saving. It is something that people may not think about.