OOTP 2007: Runtime error when simming games

gord · 02-29-2008, 07:16 PM

I'm trying to sim from 1900 to present day to give me a full league history before I get started. Three times when simming, I get the runtime error. When I restart the game, it takes almost 10 minutes to load the game.

Third patch is installed.

EDIT: Sat through a year's sim and it crashed when saving at the end of the year

gord · 03-03-2008, 10:27 AM

Update: I ditched that game when I couldn't get past a certain year so I moved on to OOTP 8 and started a new game. Simmed all the way through from 1900-2002 with no crashes. I played a year and a half and it crashed again while saving.

Does anyone know why it's doing this? Thanks.

Nutlaw · 03-03-2008, 06:54 PM

Are any of the .dat files in your .lg saved game folder empty after a crash (0 kB)? Notably the faces.dat file?

gord · 03-05-2008, 08:42 AM

Since I've been having other Windows related issues lately, I've decided that is a problem with the computer and not the game. So I reformatted and have not had any issues since then. Thanks.

gord · 03-11-2008, 07:47 PM

This has been reopened by request.

I reimaged my computer and started a new game. While the runtime errors have not been as frequent they still occur, both on my desktop and laptop, which leads me to believe it is not a computer issue.

The errors usually occur when saving, although once it did while starting autoplay.

The last time it crashed I checked the dat files and none of them were 0 kb.

TIA.

gord · 03-11-2008, 09:08 PM

Visual feedback, in case it helps.

Tony M · 03-12-2008, 02:31 PM

Are you running a historical league to catch up to current times or a fictional one?

The reason I ask is that if I start a historical in 1900, it will crash without fail in 1968 (IIRC), but if I reload it and carry on simming it's fine.

gord · 03-12-2008, 06:24 PM

Fictional, but I started it in 1900 and simmed to 2002 to get league history.

Tony M · 03-13-2008, 07:28 AM

I'm intrigued by the error message. If I get a crash like that it comes up with a different error message - and certainly not from the VC++ runtime. What operating system are you running?

gord · 03-13-2008, 08:33 AM

Windows XP SP2

gord · 03-15-2008, 08:21 PM

Any ideas on this? It seems to be crashing every time I try to save. Thanks.

gord · 03-19-2008, 11:23 AM

Bumping, hoping someone has an idea of what's going on. It crashed again last night, wiping out an entire July (and my trades that went with it) so I'm really close to giving up a game I'm really enjoying.

Nutlaw · 03-29-2008, 11:25 AM

Gord, you sure built up a lot of history in your league files here. Could you list out some of your basic computer specs? Processor speed, RAM, operating system, and hard drive space both total and available?

gord · 03-30-2008, 11:49 AM

Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0 GHZ
HD - 101G total, 56G free
RAM - 2G ocz reaper 6400
Windows XP SP2

Nutlaw · 03-30-2008, 12:17 PM

Do you have any other leagues running? If not, could you create a test league without much history built up and see if that causes you problems?

Also, when you simmed from 1900 to present day, what kind of league settings did you use? How many minor leagues did you use? What level of stat detail? Are coaches and scouts on? Are you saving all of your news, transaction logs, box scores, and game scores? Are you keeping fielding data at all levels?

gord · 03-30-2008, 04:36 PM

I'm running a full MLB setup - all levels of minors. Since I've had problems with this save, I've run two sims starting at 1901 that started with eight teams in each league (with all levels of minors) that expanded over time (all fictional players) and another one starting in 1963 with 30 teams and full minor leagues. None of those three saves had the run-time error.

For the troubled save-game in question: high level of stats detail, coaching and scouting on, box scores and logs saved for human organizations and logs are kept for two years (looked for fielding data and couldn't find it). Standard MLB rules.

Nutlaw · 03-30-2008, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gord

I'm running a full MLB setup - all levels of minors. Since I've had problems with this save, I've run two sims starting at 1901 that started with eight teams in each league (with all levels of minors) that expanded over time (all fictional players) and another one starting in 1963 with 30 teams and full minor leagues. None of those three saves had the run-time error.

For the troubled save-game in question: high level of stats detail, coaching and scouting on, box scores and logs saved for human organizations and logs are kept for two years (looked for fielding data and couldn't find it). Standard MLB rules.

High level of stats detail in just the major league or in the minor leagues as well? I guess that the fielding stats can't be adjusted after you create your saved game, but you could check individual players to see if they have them recorded.

Regardless, I'm fairly sure that your saved game merely got too bulky for you to run. Your other leagues presumably ended up with less history, due to fewer teams, fewer years, or reduced settings. If you cut back on some of the settings, you'll probably be okay with a 100 year sim of a fictional league.

Nutlaw · 04-06-2008, 10:57 AM

As this thread has gone a week without a reply, it will now be closed for housekeeping reasons. If you need any further assistance with this matter, please post a link to this thread in Tech Support and we will be happy to assist you troubleshoot your issue further. Thanks.

02-29-2008, 07:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
gord Major Leagues Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 316 Thanked 33x in 13 posts	OOTP 2007: Runtime error when simming games I'm trying to sim from 1900 to present day to give me a full league history before I get started. Three times when simming, I get the runtime error. When I restart the game, it takes almost 10 minutes to load the game. Third patch is installed. EDIT: Sat through a year's sim and it crashed when saving at the end of the year Last edited by gord; 02-29-2008 at 07:51 PM. Reason: Add last sentence

03-03-2008, 06:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,526 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	Are any of the .dat files in your .lg saved game folder empty after a crash (0 kB)? Notably the faces.dat file? __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

03-11-2008, 09:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
gord Major Leagues Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 316 Thanked 33x in 13 posts	Visual feedback, in case it helps. Attached Images

03-12-2008, 02:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tony M Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Here Posts: 6,078 Blog Entries: 3 Thanked 299x in 172 posts	Are you running a historical league to catch up to current times or a fictional one? The reason I ask is that if I start a historical in 1900, it will crash without fail in 1968 (IIRC), but if I reload it and carry on simming it's fine. __________________ This signature is intentionally blank

03-13-2008, 07:28 AM	#9 (permalink)
Tony M Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Here Posts: 6,078 Blog Entries: 3 Thanked 299x in 172 posts	I'm intrigued by the error message. If I get a crash like that it comes up with a different error message - and certainly not from the VC++ runtime. What operating system are you running? __________________ This signature is intentionally blank

03-03-2008, 10:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
gord Major Leagues Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 316 Thanked 33x in 13 posts	Update: I ditched that game when I couldn't get past a certain year so I moved on to OOTP 8 and started a new game. Simmed all the way through from 1900-2002 with no crashes. I played a year and a half and it crashed again while saving. Does anyone know why it's doing this? Thanks.

03-05-2008, 08:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
gord Major Leagues Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 316 Thanked 33x in 13 posts	Since I've been having other Windows related issues lately, I've decided that is a problem with the computer and not the game. So I reformatted and have not had any issues since then. Thanks.

03-11-2008, 07:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
gord Major Leagues Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 316 Thanked 33x in 13 posts	This has been reopened by request. I reimaged my computer and started a new game. While the runtime errors have not been as frequent they still occur, both on my desktop and laptop, which leads me to believe it is not a computer issue. The errors usually occur when saving, although once it did while starting autoplay. The last time it crashed I checked the dat files and none of them were 0 kb. TIA.

03-12-2008, 06:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
gord Major Leagues Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 316 Thanked 33x in 13 posts	Fictional, but I started it in 1900 and simmed to 2002 to get league history.

03-13-2008, 08:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
gord Major Leagues Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 316 Thanked 33x in 13 posts	Windows XP SP2

03-15-2008, 08:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
gord Major Leagues Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 316 Thanked 33x in 13 posts	Any ideas on this? It seems to be crashing every time I try to save. Thanks.

03-19-2008, 11:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
gord Major Leagues Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 316 Thanked 33x in 13 posts	Bumping, hoping someone has an idea of what's going on. It crashed again last night, wiping out an entire July (and my trades that went with it) so I'm really close to giving up a game I'm really enjoying.

03-29-2008, 11:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,526 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	Gord, you sure built up a lot of history in your league files here. Could you list out some of your basic computer specs? Processor speed, RAM, operating system, and hard drive space both total and available? __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

03-30-2008, 11:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
gord Major Leagues Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 316 Thanked 33x in 13 posts	Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0 GHZ HD - 101G total, 56G free RAM - 2G ocz reaper 6400 Windows XP SP2

03-30-2008, 12:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,526 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	Do you have any other leagues running? If not, could you create a test league without much history built up and see if that causes you problems? Also, when you simmed from 1900 to present day, what kind of league settings did you use? How many minor leagues did you use? What level of stat detail? Are coaches and scouts on? Are you saving all of your news, transaction logs, box scores, and game scores? Are you keeping fielding data at all levels? __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation Last edited by Nutlaw; 03-30-2008 at 12:19 PM.

03-30-2008, 04:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
gord Major Leagues Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 316 Thanked 33x in 13 posts	I'm running a full MLB setup - all levels of minors. Since I've had problems with this save, I've run two sims starting at 1901 that started with eight teams in each league (with all levels of minors) that expanded over time (all fictional players) and another one starting in 1963 with 30 teams and full minor leagues. None of those three saves had the run-time error. For the troubled save-game in question: high level of stats detail, coaching and scouting on, box scores and logs saved for human organizations and logs are kept for two years (looked for fielding data and couldn't find it). Standard MLB rules.

04-06-2008, 10:57 AM	#18 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,526 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	As this thread has gone a week without a reply, it will now be closed for housekeeping reasons. If you need any further assistance with this matter, please post a link to this thread in Tech Support and we will be happy to assist you troubleshoot your issue further. Thanks. __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

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