Free Agent

MorseMoose · 07-15-2008, 08:54 PM

Is this a bug or just a player not wanting to sign. Regardless, it seems weird that he'd email me the Yankees offer if mine was $110,000 more.

Two real issues though:
1) Email says he prefers Yankees offer...extension says "Braves"
2) Email says Yankees offering $790,000 over 3 years.

MorseMoose · 07-15-2008, 08:54 PM

Extension screen.

MorseMoose · 07-15-2008, 08:58 PM

Follow-up...he ends up signing with the Mariners

MorseMoose · 07-15-2008, 08:58 PM

Here is the contract he ended up signing

MorseMoose · 07-15-2008, 09:02 PM

Last little "proof" I think this is a bug or odd little anomaly

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His desire for winner is only 65/200. His greed is 182/200.

Nutlaw · 07-16-2008, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorseMoose

Is this a bug or just a player not wanting to sign. Regardless, it seems weird that he'd email me the Yankees offer if mine was $110,000 more.

Two real issues though:
1) Email says he prefers Yankees offer...extension says "Braves"
2) Email says Yankees offering $790,000 over 3 years.

He could have gotten a better offer from the Yankees, then an even better one from the Braves.

The email actually says $790,000 per year over three years.

He ended up signing for an average of $865,000 per year. That seems comparable to your offer. Given that even with a high greed rating, players factor in other things, this doesn't seem too unreasonable.

Do you disagree?

SittingDuck · 07-16-2008, 07:34 PM

Is there any chance a day went by between the Yankee's offer and the Brave's higher offer? So that the email is a day old (and a dollar or two short)?

MorseMoose · 07-16-2008, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SittingDuck

Is there any chance a day went by between the Yankee's offer and the Brave's higher offer? So that the email is a day old (and a dollar or two short)?

The Yankees offer of $790,000 was the same day that it said he prefered the Braves offer. At the time, mine was like $110,000 more.

MorseMoose · 07-16-2008, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

He could have gotten a better offer from the Yankees, then an even better one from the Braves.

The email actually says $790,000 per year over three years.

He ended up signing for an average of $865,000 per year. That seems comparable to your offer. Given that even with a high greed rating, players factor in other things, this doesn't seem too unreasonable.

Do you disagree?

Don't completely disagree, it's more the fact that I had the highest offer but he liked the Yankees offer...but yet preferred the Braves offer. Just seems iffy.

Nutlaw · 07-17-2008, 06:58 PM

The offers come in order. The Yankees had the highest offer when your offer was evaluated, then the Braves were evaluated to have a better offer afterward. That isn't uncommon behavior.

Think of it as having spoken to the player in the morning, then talking to his agent again that night. Things changed in the interim. I'm fairly sure that this is not a bug.

Would you be okay with me closing this thread out, or would you like to discuss it further?

SittingDuck · 07-17-2008, 07:08 PM

Well, I can tell you that after following the Orioles for so long, especially these last 10 years, you get to see players turn down bucks for situations more to their liking.

Nutlaw · 07-22-2008, 06:28 PM

As the original poster has not responded to this thread in five days, this thread will be closed for housekeeping reasons. If you need any further assistance with this matter whatsoever, please don't hesitate to post a link to this thread in Tech Support and we will be happy to continue to help you. Thanks.

07-15-2008, 08:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,835 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 162 Thanked 167x in 116 posts Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Free Agent Is this a bug or just a player not wanting to sign. Regardless, it seems weird that he'd email me the Yankees offer if mine was $110,000 more. Two real issues though: 1) Email says he prefers Yankees offer...extension says "Braves" 2) Email says Yankees offering $790,000 over 3 years. Attached Images __________________ [Referring to rich12545] Yoda: Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. [Referring to rich12545] Princess Leia: But, why must you confront him? Luke: Because, there is good in him. I've felt it. He won't turn me over to the Emperor. I can save him. I can turn him back to the good side. I have to try

07-15-2008, 08:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,835 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 162 Thanked 167x in 116 posts Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Extension screen. Attached Images __________________ [Referring to rich12545] Yoda: Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. [Referring to rich12545] Princess Leia: But, why must you confront him? Luke: Because, there is good in him. I've felt it. He won't turn me over to the Emperor. I can save him. I can turn him back to the good side. I have to try

07-15-2008, 08:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,835 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 162 Thanked 167x in 116 posts Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Follow-up...he ends up signing with the Mariners Attached Images __________________ [Referring to rich12545] Yoda: Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. [Referring to rich12545] Princess Leia: But, why must you confront him? Luke: Because, there is good in him. I've felt it. He won't turn me over to the Emperor. I can save him. I can turn him back to the good side. I have to try

07-15-2008, 08:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,835 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 162 Thanked 167x in 116 posts Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Here is the contract he ended up signing Attached Images __________________ [Referring to rich12545] Yoda: Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. [Referring to rich12545] Princess Leia: But, why must you confront him? Luke: Because, there is good in him. I've felt it. He won't turn me over to the Emperor. I can save him. I can turn him back to the good side. I have to try

07-15-2008, 09:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,835 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 162 Thanked 167x in 116 posts Infractions: 1/1 (1)	Last little "proof" I think this is a bug or odd little anomaly . His desire for winner is only 65/200. His greed is 182/200. Attached Images __________________ [Referring to rich12545] Yoda: Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. [Referring to rich12545] Princess Leia: But, why must you confront him? Luke: Because, there is good in him. I've felt it. He won't turn me over to the Emperor. I can save him. I can turn him back to the good side. I have to try

07-16-2008, 07:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
SittingDuck All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,834 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Is there any chance a day went by between the Yankee's offer and the Brave's higher offer? So that the email is a day old (and a dollar or two short)?

07-17-2008, 06:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,529 Thanks: 79 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	The offers come in order. The Yankees had the highest offer when your offer was evaluated, then the Braves were evaluated to have a better offer afterward. That isn't uncommon behavior. Think of it as having spoken to the player in the morning, then talking to his agent again that night. Things changed in the interim. I'm fairly sure that this is not a bug. Would you be okay with me closing this thread out, or would you like to discuss it further? __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

07-17-2008, 07:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
SittingDuck All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,834 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Well, I can tell you that after following the Orioles for so long, especially these last 10 years, you get to see players turn down bucks for situations more to their liking.

07-22-2008, 06:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,529 Thanks: 79 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	As the original poster has not responded to this thread in five days, this thread will be closed for housekeeping reasons. If you need any further assistance with this matter whatsoever, please don't hesitate to post a link to this thread in Tech Support and we will be happy to continue to help you. Thanks. __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

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