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Old 08-02-2008, 06:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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contract extension wackiness

I am thinking about extending a player contract so on July 4 of the present season I went to his player page, clicked Action, offer extension and he says he wants 7 years, 96 mil. I laughed closed the action and quick-played the days games.
Next day July 5, I get a personal message email from the player "I find it perplexing that I haven't received an offer to extend my contract. blah, blah, blah" so I click his name, action, offer extension and the offer is now 3 years, 36 mil. ??

The offer changed 4 years and 60 mil. lower in 1 day??

Is the email response to a player perhaps coded differently then if I just offer extension without an email.?
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Well, the money per year is actually very similar in both offers. A player will tell you what he wants, but that doesn't mean that he isn't flexible. I wouldn't be surprised if you offered him either contract on either day that he would accept it.

Regardless of whether or not a player sends you an email, you still have to go through the same process to re-sign him. It's possible that his morale improved a bit and changed his contract demands during the process, but I don't see any drastic shift here.

Would you like to discuss this further?
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Old 08-02-2008, 11:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I understand the average is similar but the actual time/dollars are vastly different. Why would a player ask for 7 years then the next day ask for 3 and why 36 mil and 96 mil. thats 60 million dollars difference, thats far too much of a difference its just not right and his morale changed enough in 1!! day, its all too much of a swing.
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How old is the player, Tim? Is there any expectation that he won't be able to make $13M/year three seasons from now? Really long contracts aren't necessarily a positive thing.
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I think we're looking at this differently. My problem is the insane variation in offers in 1 day. Just not realistic.
Oh and the player was 30 years old and resigned for 3 yrs/27.9 mil.
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I think we're looking at this differently. My problem is the insane variation in offers in 1 day. Just not realistic.
Oh and the player was 30 years old and resigned for 3 yrs/27.9 mil.
No, we're just disagreeing. It isn't an "insane variation". He essentially wants the same amount of money per year. At 33 years old, he still ought to be a productive player who could command similar money out in the market. I don't see a significant advantage in having his contract run an extra four years, since he'll likely end up with the same amount of money each year regardless. Some players even devalue excessive years on their contracts. Not everyone wants to be locked down that long, and some are indifferent.

Furthermore, you see how he signed for less than he asked for? Consider a player's demands as an opening bargaining position. He pitched you a pair of offers that were higher than what you were able to settle upon. You were crafty enough not to simply hand him whatever he asked for, so what does it matter? He would have signed for either of his offers on either day, and ended up signing for less than either.
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Okay find me 1 example of a player/person anywhere that changed there demands by 60 million dollars in 1 day.
Thats my point.
If 200% variation in a day isn't insane then what is?
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This is just getting argumentative, so I'm going to close this out. I provided you with my explanations above. You may have chosen to program things differently, and that's fine, but this is how it works. There's no bug and there's no reasonable way to change it at this point. Dollars per year is the important factor here, not total dollars.
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