Finalizing Slow Down

Eddie Paxil · 08-24-2008, 12:05 AM

I'm running the most current OOTP 9.1.6 on OSX 10.3.9. Mac G4 1GHz w/ 1 GB Ram.

I am in a few online leagues, and for the most part I have little trouble loading the files. However, two months ago plus I had to quit a league using OOTP 8 because the file simply took too long to load, and always in the same place. On one occasion when I was timing it the file actually took 34 minutes to load. It was believed that the issue was quantity of players, and dead league files that couldn't be removed left there by the file makers.

Well I have just joined another online league this time using OOTP, and have encountered the same problem. What really has my attention is the fact that this league used the same MLB file as it's basis that another league I am in used. In that league I have absolutely no file loading problems. It's happening in one, but not the other.

This has to be an issue regarding the set up done by the league commissioners but what?? Even if someone could just help me narrow down the possibilities I'd appreciate it. Here is a screen shot of exactly when it happens during the loading process. Again this has now happened in both OOTP 8 and OOTP 9.

Tony M · 08-24-2008, 02:45 AM

Can you provide a link to the league's home page so one of us can try opening the file to see what happens and what the size of the league is?

gollum65 · 08-24-2008, 09:39 AM

I'm the commish of the new league he's having trouble with. I have 2 reports of this issue. Eddie on his Mac, and another person on Vista.

I'm admitedtly new to being a Commish, so it's certainly possible that I have something wrong in my setup. But, I can say that there's no player history at all in the file these guys have (although MLB player history will be added due to requests for it), and the only setting I can think of that might have caused this is "Include New & Changed Images".

The league file they are using is currently 42.4 MB (but it'll go up when MLB player histories are added). You can check out the league file at: Ash & Maple Baseball League Home Page There's a "Guest GM" with no team and no password you can login to if you even get that far in loading.

I'd really like to get this solved as the 2 guys having this problem are very good GMs and I don't want to lose them. You can also email me at commish(at)ashmaplebaseball.info if needed.

Thanks!

Eddie Paxil · 08-24-2008, 06:43 PM

Paul got you the details of the primary league I'm having trouble with above.

This league, the WBL, is the other league that uses the same roster set, but does not have the same issue when finalizing. I don't think there's a guest login though. This is the direct link to their file.

This league, the MLSB, uses a different roster set and is in OOTP 2007/8, and gave me the same issue. The guest login password is mlsb I believe. This is a direct link to their file.

If the direct file links don't work. They have a link on the main pages which I made the league names links to.

Any help would be appreciated.

Eddie Paxil · 08-24-2008, 06:48 PM

Almost forgot. You asked for file sizes.

The AMBL file size which is the league giving me trouble in OOTP is showing as 378.1 MB in OS X. That's fully extracted while sitting in the OOTP 9 saved games folder.

The WBL (same roster, no problems) file size is showing as 682.8 MB in OS X. Again, that's fully extracted while sitting in the OOTP 9 saved games folder.

I no longer have the MLSB file so I can't give you the size.

memman32 · 08-26-2008, 05:23 PM

I am having the same problem. My game is not an online league. Just a personal league I created.

It takes several minutes before the program finally lets me in. There have been occasions where I do not get in at all. The game becomes non-responsive.

gollum65 · 08-28-2008, 11:10 AM

I posted above that one of the people having this problem was a Vista user. Well, he's also co-commish and he did this morning's sim and export of the league file. Now I have the problem. It's not as extreme as Eddie & the other user have reported, but now it does take me about 90 seconds to get through "finalizing", which wasn't the case before.

Any help on this issue would be appreciated.

memman32 · 08-30-2008, 10:09 AM

Is anyone from OOTP going to respond?

This is a serious issue. I have not been able to get into my game today. The slow down seems to get worse as the seasons go on.

Nutlaw · 09-01-2008, 08:56 AM

Depending upon your settings and the size and length of history of your league, users will gradually have a tougher and tougher time loading it as you progress.

You might want to try some of the following suggestions: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...auto-play.html

gollum65 · 09-01-2008, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

Depending upon your settings and the size and length of history of your league, users will gradually have a tougher and tougher time loading it as you progress.

You might want to try some of the following suggestions: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...auto-play.html

We're only including MLB history in our league, not any of the minor leagues. I'll try reducing the # of box scores and game logs it exports and see if that helps.

Nutlaw · 09-06-2008, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gollum65

We're only including MLB history in our league, not any of the minor leagues. I'll try reducing the # of box scores and game logs it exports and see if that helps.

Any progress?

gollum65 · 09-06-2008, 12:55 PM

Nope. Still takes over a minute to get through "finalizing". I've reduced the # of game logs, box scores, etc. to 10 days, but didn't seem to help.

gollum65 · 09-08-2008, 10:03 AM

What does the game do during "finalizing"? I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the size of the league file, and more specifically the "News" folder? That folder alone is 348 MB. The entire league folder is 481 MB. In the league file I include 10 days of game logs & box scores and MLB player history (not history for any of the minor leagues).

By comparison, another league I'm in, that I'm not commish of, has a total league file size of 615 MB, but the "news" folder is only 114 MB. I don't have the finalizing issue with any league except for the one I commish. And as was stated earlier in this thread, other GMs are having it as well.

Nutlaw · 09-09-2008, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gollum65

What does the game do during "finalizing"? I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the size of the league file, and more specifically the "News" folder? That folder alone is 348 MB. The entire league folder is 481 MB. In the league file I include 10 days of game logs & box scores and MLB player history (not history for any of the minor leagues).

By comparison, another league I'm in, that I'm not commish of, has a total league file size of 615 MB, but the "news" folder is only 114 MB. I don't have the finalizing issue with any league except for the one I commish. And as was stated earlier in this thread, other GMs are having it as well.

Not sure, but there's a very easy way to test it! Create a new .lg folder in your saved_games directory and only copy over all of the .dat files, then try to open it in OOTP. Please let us know how it goes.

gollum65 · 09-09-2008, 09:25 PM

Ok, tried what you suggested. Still took 55 seconds just to get through finalizing. I'm in 3 other leagues and none have this problem.

Nutlaw · 09-10-2008, 06:28 PM

I'm not sure what else to suggest, then. I know that they are working on general performance improvement for the next patch, but I can't make any promises.

Can we help you with anything else?

gollum65 · 09-11-2008, 06:45 AM

I guess not. Hope that patch fixes it.

Nutlaw · 09-11-2008, 06:41 PM

Sorry that I couldn't be more helpful on this one.

08-24-2008, 12:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
Eddie Paxil Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 133 Thanks: 14 Thanked 1x in 1 post	Finalizing Slow Down I'm running the most current OOTP 9.1.6 on OSX 10.3.9. Mac G4 1GHz w/ 1 GB Ram. I am in a few online leagues, and for the most part I have little trouble loading the files. However, two months ago plus I had to quit a league using OOTP 8 because the file simply took too long to load, and always in the same place. On one occasion when I was timing it the file actually took 34 minutes to load. It was believed that the issue was quantity of players, and dead league files that couldn't be removed left there by the file makers. Well I have just joined another online league this time using OOTP, and have encountered the same problem. What really has my attention is the fact that this league used the same MLB file as it's basis that another league I am in used. In that league I have absolutely no file loading problems. It's happening in one, but not the other. This has to be an issue regarding the set up done by the league commissioners but what?? Even if someone could just help me narrow down the possibilities I'd appreciate it. Here is a screen shot of exactly when it happens during the loading process. Again this has now happened in both OOTP 8 and OOTP 9. __________________ Eddie Paxil National Base Ball Union Est. 1861

08-24-2008, 02:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
Tony M Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Here Posts: 6,113 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 38 Thanked 309x in 179 posts	Can you provide a link to the league's home page so one of us can try opening the file to see what happens and what the size of the league is? __________________ This signature is intentionally blank

08-24-2008, 06:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
Eddie Paxil Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 133 Thanks: 14 Thanked 1x in 1 post	Paul got you the details of the primary league I'm having trouble with above. This league, the WBL, is the other league that uses the same roster set, but does not have the same issue when finalizing. I don't think there's a guest login though. This is the direct link to their file. This league, the MLSB, uses a different roster set and is in OOTP 2007/8, and gave me the same issue. The guest login password is mlsb I believe. This is a direct link to their file. If the direct file links don't work. They have a link on the main pages which I made the league names links to. Any help would be appreciated. __________________ Eddie Paxil National Base Ball Union Est. 1861

08-24-2008, 06:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
Eddie Paxil Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 133 Thanks: 14 Thanked 1x in 1 post	Almost forgot. You asked for file sizes. The AMBL file size which is the league giving me trouble in OOTP is showing as 378.1 MB in OS X. That's fully extracted while sitting in the OOTP 9 saved games folder. The WBL (same roster, no problems) file size is showing as 682.8 MB in OS X. Again, that's fully extracted while sitting in the OOTP 9 saved games folder. I no longer have the MLSB file so I can't give you the size. __________________ Eddie Paxil National Base Ball Union Est. 1861

08-26-2008, 05:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
memman32 Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Same Issue I am having the same problem. My game is not an online league. Just a personal league I created. It takes several minutes before the program finally lets me in. There have been occasions where I do not get in at all. The game becomes non-responsive.

08-24-2008, 09:39 AM	#3 (permalink)
gollum65 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 900 Thanks: 7 Thanked 7x in 7 posts	I'm the commish of the new league he's having trouble with. I have 2 reports of this issue. Eddie on his Mac, and another person on Vista. I'm admitedtly new to being a Commish, so it's certainly possible that I have something wrong in my setup. But, I can say that there's no player history at all in the file these guys have (although MLB player history will be added due to requests for it), and the only setting I can think of that might have caused this is "Include New & Changed Images". The league file they are using is currently 42.4 MB (but it'll go up when MLB player histories are added). You can check out the league file at: Ash & Maple Baseball League Home Page There's a "Guest GM" with no team and no password you can login to if you even get that far in loading. I'd really like to get this solved as the 2 guys having this problem are very good GMs and I don't want to lose them. You can also email me at commish(at)ashmaplebaseball.info if needed. Thanks!

08-28-2008, 11:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
gollum65 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 900 Thanks: 7 Thanked 7x in 7 posts	I posted above that one of the people having this problem was a Vista user. Well, he's also co-commish and he did this morning's sim and export of the league file. Now I have the problem. It's not as extreme as Eddie & the other user have reported, but now it does take me about 90 seconds to get through "finalizing", which wasn't the case before. Any help on this issue would be appreciated.

08-30-2008, 10:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
memman32 Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Follow-up Is anyone from OOTP going to respond? This is a serious issue. I have not been able to get into my game today. The slow down seems to get worse as the seasons go on.

09-01-2008, 08:56 AM	#9 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,529 Thanks: 79 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	Depending upon your settings and the size and length of history of your league, users will gradually have a tougher and tougher time loading it as you progress. You might want to try some of the following suggestions: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...auto-play.html __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

09-06-2008, 12:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
gollum65 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 900 Thanks: 7 Thanked 7x in 7 posts	Nope. Still takes over a minute to get through "finalizing". I've reduced the # of game logs, box scores, etc. to 10 days, but didn't seem to help.

09-08-2008, 10:03 AM	#13 (permalink)
gollum65 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 900 Thanks: 7 Thanked 7x in 7 posts	What does the game do during "finalizing"? I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the size of the league file, and more specifically the "News" folder? That folder alone is 348 MB. The entire league folder is 481 MB. In the league file I include 10 days of game logs & box scores and MLB player history (not history for any of the minor leagues). By comparison, another league I'm in, that I'm not commish of, has a total league file size of 615 MB, but the "news" folder is only 114 MB. I don't have the finalizing issue with any league except for the one I commish. And as was stated earlier in this thread, other GMs are having it as well. Last edited by gollum65; 09-08-2008 at 10:05 AM.

09-09-2008, 09:25 PM	#15 (permalink)
gollum65 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 900 Thanks: 7 Thanked 7x in 7 posts	Ok, tried what you suggested. Still took 55 seconds just to get through finalizing. I'm in 3 other leagues and none have this problem.

09-10-2008, 06:28 PM	#16 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,529 Thanks: 79 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	I'm not sure what else to suggest, then. I know that they are working on general performance improvement for the next patch, but I can't make any promises. Can we help you with anything else? __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

09-11-2008, 06:45 AM	#17 (permalink)
gollum65 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 900 Thanks: 7 Thanked 7x in 7 posts	I guess not. Hope that patch fixes it.

09-11-2008, 06:41 PM	#18 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,529 Thanks: 79 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	Sorry that I couldn't be more helpful on this one. __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

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