Speed of league file and HTML reports generation

Corsairs · 10-22-2008, 09:53 PM

Has anyone else noticed OOTP 9 generates league files and HTML reports slower then OOTP 8? Like, in the neighborhood of 4x slower? In OOTP 8 I'd be creating a file in a couple of minutes. In OOTP 9 it's taking me 10 minutes with the same settings.

mikev · 10-22-2008, 10:17 PM

Yes.

It's ridiculous that it takes over 2 hours to create a 45 megabye tarball.

Alan T · 10-23-2008, 07:04 AM

I was having speed issues on my laptop, but once I switched to using my desktop only for generating the league file I no longer had speed issues. League file generally between 35 and 65 MB depending on the time of the season takes me about 5 minutes to generate. The slowdown for me was if trying to upload it via the game. I have stopped that entirely and once the file is generated, I upload using a standard FTP client which is much much faster.

Perhaps the slowdown you experience is due to your system having slower disk access speed (ie: why it was slow for me on my laptop). I assume when writing 5000-15000 files, that disk access matters the most.

And just so no one gets irritated at me, I'm not saying this is your issue and ootp9 isn't slower, just was trying to offer possible suggestions for you to help speed it up to help

Corsairs · 10-23-2008, 08:01 AM

The thing is, I'm generating the file and reports on the same system that I was using for OOTP 8, and the speed on that platform was just great. It's only once I made the switch to 9 that things got really slow. Last night it took me 40 minutes to generate the league HTML. We've just reached Spring Training and a few more reports are being included, but that's quite a slowdown from the previous speed of generation.

satchel · 10-23-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Corsairs

Last night it took me 40 minutes to generate the league HTML.

How many teams and how many days' worth of reports?

Corsairs · 10-23-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by satchel

How many teams and how many days' worth of reports?

A couple hundred teams and 12 days of reports. Now I know what you're going to say... "That's a lot! No wonder it took long." But what I'm talking about is the comparative speed that the same operation took in OOTP 8. In 8 I could expect to generate a report of that length in 10-15 minutes. Last night it took me 45. I don't mind that it takes some time; I'm just curious why it's taking so much longer in 9.

mikev · 10-23-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Corsairs

A couple hundred teams and 12 days of reports. Now I know what you're going to say... "That's a lot! No wonder it took long." But what I'm talking about is the comparative speed that the same operation took in OOTP 8. In 8 I could expect to generate a report of that length in 10-15 minutes. Last night it took me 45. I don't mind that it takes some time; I'm just curious why it's taking so much longer in 9.

Exactly.

For everybody trying to pass this off as a hardware problem, the EXACT SAME THING with OOTP8 took half as long.

Alan T · 10-23-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mikev

Exactly.

For everybody trying to pass this off as a hardware problem, the EXACT SAME THING with OOTP8 took half as long.

If you are pointing this to me, I clearly said my posts wern't anything to do with ootp9 not being slower than ootp8. I actually agree that it seems slower. My intent was to try to pass along various things I found that helped in case anyone was looking for improvement. I assumed you were including me in your comment since you said everybody and only 2 people had responded

mikev · 10-23-2008, 11:45 PM

No I'm pointing it to everybody in general that reads the thread.

satchel · 10-24-2008, 03:44 PM

Forty-five minutes seems way too long. What's the raw number of reports being made?

EKomrska15 · 10-25-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by satchel

Forty-five minutes seems way too long. What's the raw number of reports being made?

It takes me about 2 hours to do everything. And I"m using Cubbies roster file.

Corsairs · 10-25-2008, 04:15 PM

I'm happy to report that the source of my problem was attributable to human error. My mistake revolved around my virus scanner (I use Kaspersky). Knowing that virus scanners can often slow things down, I long ago set up an exclusion for my OOTP 8 directories to prevent Kaspersky from scanning files as they're created there. That was so long ago I forgot all about it. Of course when I set up OOTP 9, I installed it to a new directory that was no longer covered by the exclusion.

When I remembered this, I set up a new rule for the OOTP 9 directories and timed the operations. File creation now completes in 8 1/2 minutes, while the reports take 22 1/2 minutes with my current settings. That's still a little slower than under OOTP 8 (in the range of 2-4 minutes), but nothing nearly as drastic as the 45 minutes I had been experiencing.

For anyone having speed issues with file and report generation, make sure your virus scanner isn't checking your files as they're being created.

mikev · 10-26-2008, 02:56 PM

I'll try the virus exception, thanks.

TurboTrigga · 10-28-2008, 01:17 PM

I'm having these same issues (using a 2.5 ghz 4mb ram Mac book). It's taking me over an hour and 30 minutes to create my league archive. I do not have a virus scanner on my system.

Any Help would be appreciated.

mikev · 10-29-2008, 12:35 PM

The virus exception didn't work.

It still took almost 2 hours to generate HTML reports, using the exact same settings as I did with OOTP8 when it took about 35 minutes.

EKomrska15 · 10-30-2008, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mikev

The virus exception didn't work.

It still took almost 2 hours to generate HTML reports, using the exact same settings as I did with OOTP8 when it took about 35 minutes.

It takes me about 2 hours still, I do have a virus protector on here I wonder if I disabled that while doing the sim it would go faster. 2 hours just seems like such a long time. MLB settings with all levels of the minors.

mikev · 11-03-2008, 01:52 PM

anybody else having issues with this?

I mean, it's taking literally TWICE as long to generate reports as it did with OOTP8.

spot · 11-04-2008, 08:32 AM

I have actually come to grips with the fact that I create the HTML files overnight and then extract them in the morning. Since I do my sims at night it works out pretty well. That said, it's a bit of a pain when creating reports takes almost an hour for a 20 team league with 3 levels of minors and a week's worth of reports.

kleric · 11-09-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by spot

I have actually come to grips with the fact that I create the HTML files overnight and then extract them in the morning. Since I do my sims at night it works out pretty well. That said, it's a bit of a pain when creating reports takes almost an hour for a 20 team league with 3 levels of minors and a week's worth of reports.

This is ridiculous. Where is Markus' answer to this?
I just converted my league, but I'm damned ready to just give up OOTP altogether if the truth is you can't do a nightly sim in about an hour anymore.
What the hell changed between OOTP2007/8 and OOTP9?

I'm just about to give up entirely on this product.

darkcloud4579 · 11-09-2008, 05:32 PM

I agree. It's an onerous process and it's ridiculous that there isn't a more efficient way to manage all of the reams of data the game creates.

10-22-2008, 09:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
Corsairs Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,062 Thanks: 906 Thanked 445x in 243 posts	Speed of league file and HTML reports generation Has anyone else noticed OOTP 9 generates league files and HTML reports slower then OOTP 8? Like, in the neighborhood of 4x slower? In OOTP 8 I'd be creating a file in a couple of minutes. In OOTP 9 it's taking me 10 minutes with the same settings. __________________ Commissioner of the Planetary Extreme Baseball Alliance (PEBA) and the League of the Rising Sun (LRS) Premiere OOTP fictional leagues where creativity counts and imagination is your only limitation Check for openings - contact us today! Join the PEBA Join the LRS

10-22-2008, 10:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,006 Thanks: 0 Thanked 24x in 19 posts	Yes. It's ridiculous that it takes over 2 hours to create a 45 megabye tarball. __________________ 70% of the earth's surface is covered by water. The other 30% is taken care of by Patrick Willis. Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and San Francisco Seals GM

10-23-2008, 08:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
Corsairs Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,062 Thanks: 906 Thanked 445x in 243 posts	The thing is, I'm generating the file and reports on the same system that I was using for OOTP 8, and the speed on that platform was just great. It's only once I made the switch to 9 that things got really slow. Last night it took me 40 minutes to generate the league HTML. We've just reached Spring Training and a few more reports are being included, but that's quite a slowdown from the previous speed of generation. __________________ Commissioner of the Planetary Extreme Baseball Alliance (PEBA) and the League of the Rising Sun (LRS) Premiere OOTP fictional leagues where creativity counts and imagination is your only limitation Check for openings - contact us today! Join the PEBA Join the LRS

10-23-2008, 11:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,006 Thanks: 0 Thanked 24x in 19 posts	No I'm pointing it to everybody in general that reads the thread. __________________ 70% of the earth's surface is covered by water. The other 30% is taken care of by Patrick Willis. Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and San Francisco Seals GM

10-25-2008, 04:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
Corsairs Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,062 Thanks: 906 Thanked 445x in 243 posts	I'm happy to report that the source of my problem was attributable to human error. My mistake revolved around my virus scanner (I use Kaspersky). Knowing that virus scanners can often slow things down, I long ago set up an exclusion for my OOTP 8 directories to prevent Kaspersky from scanning files as they're created there. That was so long ago I forgot all about it. Of course when I set up OOTP 9, I installed it to a new directory that was no longer covered by the exclusion. When I remembered this, I set up a new rule for the OOTP 9 directories and timed the operations. File creation now completes in 8 1/2 minutes, while the reports take 22 1/2 minutes with my current settings. That's still a little slower than under OOTP 8 (in the range of 2-4 minutes), but nothing nearly as drastic as the 45 minutes I had been experiencing. For anyone having speed issues with file and report generation, make sure your virus scanner isn't checking your files as they're being created. __________________ Commissioner of the Planetary Extreme Baseball Alliance (PEBA) and the League of the Rising Sun (LRS) Premiere OOTP fictional leagues where creativity counts and imagination is your only limitation Check for openings - contact us today! Join the PEBA Join the LRS

10-23-2008, 07:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
Alan T Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass. Posts: 1,963 Thanks: 15 Thanked 136x in 94 posts	I was having speed issues on my laptop, but once I switched to using my desktop only for generating the league file I no longer had speed issues. League file generally between 35 and 65 MB depending on the time of the season takes me about 5 minutes to generate. The slowdown for me was if trying to upload it via the game. I have stopped that entirely and once the file is generated, I upload using a standard FTP client which is much much faster. Perhaps the slowdown you experience is due to your system having slower disk access speed (ie: why it was slow for me on my laptop). I assume when writing 5000-15000 files, that disk access matters the most. And just so no one gets irritated at me, I'm not saying this is your issue and ootp9 isn't slower, just was trying to offer possible suggestions for you to help speed it up to help

10-24-2008, 03:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
satchel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ft Smith AR Posts: 2,680 Thanks: 52 Thanked 48x in 26 posts	Forty-five minutes seems way too long. What's the raw number of reports being made?

10-26-2008, 02:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,006 Thanks: 0 Thanked 24x in 19 posts	I'll try the virus exception, thanks. __________________ 70% of the earth's surface is covered by water. The other 30% is taken care of by Patrick Willis. Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and San Francisco Seals GM

10-28-2008, 01:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
TurboTrigga Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 62 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I'm having these same issues (using a 2.5 ghz 4mb ram Mac book). It's taking me over an hour and 30 minutes to create my league archive. I do not have a virus scanner on my system. Any Help would be appreciated. __________________ iMLB - Reality with a twist Commissioner & Reds GM WORLD BASEBALL HIERARCHY - Where champions compete! GM of the Lagunillas Loros

10-29-2008, 12:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,006 Thanks: 0 Thanked 24x in 19 posts	The virus exception didn't work. It still took almost 2 hours to generate HTML reports, using the exact same settings as I did with OOTP8 when it took about 35 minutes. __________________ 70% of the earth's surface is covered by water. The other 30% is taken care of by Patrick Willis. Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and San Francisco Seals GM

11-03-2008, 01:52 PM	#17 (permalink)
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,006 Thanks: 0 Thanked 24x in 19 posts	anybody else having issues with this? I mean, it's taking literally TWICE as long to generate reports as it did with OOTP8. __________________ 70% of the earth's surface is covered by water. The other 30% is taken care of by Patrick Willis. Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and San Francisco Seals GM

11-04-2008, 08:32 AM	#18 (permalink)
spot All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Drexel Hill, PA Posts: 777 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2x in 1 post	I have actually come to grips with the fact that I create the HTML files overnight and then extract them in the morning. Since I do my sims at night it works out pretty well. That said, it's a bit of a pain when creating reports takes almost an hour for a 20 team league with 3 levels of minors and a week's worth of reports. __________________ PCBL Commissioner - Philadelphia Ambassadors 1993-Present 795-819 Cooperstown League Champions - 1994 We have openings. Come join us! BLB - Owner Los Alamos Bandits 307-308 FOOL-H: Washington Senators 1903-Present 1707-1697 FOOL-H Champions - 1905, 1906, 1910, 1918 AL Champions - 1905, 1918, 1919, 1921, 1923 AL Wild Card - 1906, 1910 FOOL-X: Stafford Terriers - 1985 Expansion Franchise 1985-Present 390-582

11-09-2008, 05:32 PM	#20 (permalink)
darkcloud4579 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,298 Blog Entries: 29 Thanks: 89 Thanked 77x in 45 posts	I agree. It's an onerous process and it's ridiculous that there isn't a more efficient way to manage all of the reams of data the game creates. __________________ SLOP: Commissioner FOBL: Marlboro Townies FOFC-FBCB: Kansas Jayhawks ZOMGFL: Colorado Buffaloes Omnivore FBS Computer Ranking

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