ping, Mal

[kagnew35]

MD, not wanting to tread on yourtoes, I do have a bit of experience in arabic, am linguist and worked middle east for 7 years, and have been asked to do a Muslim name file. Never having done anything like that, can you give me details of how to set it up. Just comma delineated firsty and last names? Appreciate any advice. ty

special problem with arab names is that all can be 1st and last wwith ibn meaning son of, lots of sons of in arab names.
bint is daughter of

[jm47048]

Originally Posted by kagnew35

MD, not wanting to tread on yourtoes, I do have a bit of experience in arabic, am linguist and worked middle east for 7 years, and have been asked to do a Muslim name file. Never having done anything like that, can you give me details of how to set it up. Just comma delineated firsty and last names? Appreciate any advice. ty

special problem with arab names is that all can be 1st and last wwith ibn meaning son of, lots of sons of in arab names.
bint is daughter of

You might want to edit this and correct your spellings.

[jaxmagicman]

Originally Posted by jm47048

You might want to edit this and correct your spellings.

Why would he want to do that? I see misspellings (sic) all over the place.

[kagnew35]

Originally Posted by jm47048

You might want to edit this and correct your spellings.

gee, sorry for the extra w

[RBLwebguy]

There are two name files, 1 for given names and 1 for surnames. It will be easy to insert the names in the game text files when it is released.

Basically create two txt files, and you can pop them in. I am sure instructions will be forthcoming on how to set your nation up and set the frequency of the names.

[RBLwebguy]

dola,

http://www.ootpbaseball2006.com/news...ews=view&id=37

[kagnew35]

basically, in arabic there are no 1st or last names, mostly just a name ibn(son of) and his fathers name. so just using the 99 names of god might suffice. clan or tribal names go back to common ancestors, ie, beni hashem are descendents of hashem, grandfather of muhammid

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by kagnew35

gee, sorry for the extra w

yes shame shame on you for being human

on a serious note (for a change in one of these threads), would OOTP support UTF-8 encoding or would you have to put all names in Western Europe characters like how we're typing here? I ask not only for this, but for other languages that dont' use our character set.

[Kyros]

The only arabic words I can say is "Iron Sheik".

[Joshv02]

This thread is an episode of the twilight zone.

[Malleus Dei]

Here's a suitable first name list:

Aban
Abbas
Abbud
Abbudin
Abdul
Abdel
Abdul-Alim
Abdul-Aliyy
Abdul-Azim
Abdul-Aziz
Abdul-Bari
Abdul-Basit
Abdul-Fattah
Abdul-Ghaffar
Abdul-Hadi
Abdul-Hafiz
Abdul-Hakam
Abdul-Hakim
Abdul-Halim
Abdul-Hamid
Abdul-Haqq
Abdul-Hasib
Abdul-Jabbar
Abdul-Jalil
Abdul-Karim
Abdul-Khaliq
Abdul-Latif
Abdul-Malik
Abdul-Majid
Abdul-Matin
Abdul-Muhaimin
Abdul-Mu'izz
Abdul-Mujib
Abdul-Muta'al
Abdul-Muttalib
Abdul-Nasser
Abdul-Nasir
Abdul-Qadir
Abdul-Qahhar
Abdul-Quddus
Abdul-Rafi
Abdul-Rahim
Abdul-Rahman
Abdul-Rashid
Abdul-Ra'uf
Abdul-Razzaq
Abdul-Sabur
Abdul-Salam
Abdul-Samad
Abdul-Sami
Abdul-Shakur
Abdul-Tawwab
Abdul-Wadud
Abdul-Wahhab
Abdul-Wahid
Abdullah
Abraha
Abu Bakr
Abu al Khayr
Adel
Adham
Adnan
Afif
Afeef
Ahmad
Ahmed
Akil
Akram
Ala'
Aladdin
Ala' al din
Ali
Aliyy
Alim
Altair
Amid
Amin
Ameen
Amir
Amjad
Ammar
Amr
Anbar
Anis
Anwar
Arfan
Arif
Asad
Asadel
Ashraf
Asif
Asim
Aswad
Ata
Atif
Awad
Ayman
Ayyad
Ayyub
Ayoob
Aza
Azhar
Azeem
Azim
Azzam
Badr
Badr al Din
Baha
Baha al Din
Bahiyy al Din
Bahir
Barakah
Bashshar
Basil
Bassam
Basim
Bilal
Bishr
Boulos
Burhan
Bursuq
Butrus
Dabir
Da'ud
Dawud
Dharr
Dhul Fiqar
Diya al Din
Duqaq
Emir
Esam
Essam
Fadi
Fadil
Fahd
Fahad
Faisal
Faysal
Fakhir
Fakhiri
Fakhry
Fakih
Farid
Fareed
Fariq
Fareeq
Faris
Farraj
Faruq
Farooq
Fath
Fatin
Fateen
Fawwaz
Fawzi
Ferran
Fida
Firas
Fouad
Fudail
Gamal
Gamali
Ghalib
Ghassan
Ghazi
Ghiyath
Habib
Hadad
Haddad
Hadi
Hajjaj
Hakeem
Hakim
Hakem
Halim
Hamal
Hamdan
Hamid
Hamzah
Hana
Hanbal
Hani
Hanif
Harith
Haroun
Harun
Hashim
Hassan
Hatim
Haytham
Hilal
Hilel
Hisham
Hud
Houd
Hudhayfah
Humam
Husain
Hussein
Husam
Husam al Din
Husayn
Ibrahim
Idris
Ihsan
Imad
Imad al Din
Imran
Irfan
Isa
Eisa
Isam
Issam
Ishaq
Isma'il
Isra'il
Izz al Din
Jabbar
Jabir
Jafar
Jalal
Jalil
Jaleel
Jamal
Jamal al Din
Jamil
Jameel
Jawad
Jawhar
Jibril
Jihad
Jubair
Jumah
Kadar
Kedar
Kadeen
Kadin
Kadeer
Kadir
Ka'im
Kahil
Kaliq
Kamal
Kamil
Kameel
Kardal
Karif
Kareef
Karim
Kareem
Kasib
Kaseeb
Kaseem
Kasim
Kateb
Khaldun
Khaldoon
Khalid
Khaled
Khalil
Khaleel
Kalil
Khatib
Khair al Din
Khairy
Khayri
Khoury
Khuzaymah
Kutaiba
Labib
Labeeb
Labid
Lahab
Latif
Luqman
Lutfi
Mahdi
Mahir
Mahmud
Mahmoud
Maimun
Majdy
Majid al Din
Majid
Majd
Makin
Malik
Mamdouh
Ma'mun
Ma'n
Mansur
Marid
Marzuq
Mash'al
Masruq
Mas'ud
Maudad
Mazin
Mika'il
Misbah
Mohammed
Mu'adh
Mu'awiyah
Mu'ayyad
Mubarak
Mufid
Mufeed
Muhammad
Muhanned
Muhsin
Muhtadi
Mujahid
Mukhtar
Mundhir
Munir
Muneer
Muntasir
Murtadi
Murtadhy
Musa
Moosa
Mus'ad
Muslim
Mustafa
Muta
Mu'tasim
Mu'tazz
Muti
Muwaffaq
Nabhan
Nabih
Nabil
Nabeel
Nadhir
Nadim
Nadeem
Nadir
Naif
Na'il
Naim
Naji
Najib
Najeeb
Najjar
Najm al Din
Nasih
Nasim
Nasir
Nasir al Din
Nasser
Nawaf
Nawfal
Nazih
Nazeeh
Nazim
Nazeem
Nuh
Nooh
Numair
Nu'man
Nur al Din
Nuri
Noori
Omar
Omran
Othman
Qadir
Qaraja
Qasim
Qays
Qudamah
Qutaybah
Qutaiba
Qutuz
Rabah
Rabi
Radi
Rafi
Rafiq
Raghib
Ragheb
Rahman
Ra'id
Rais
Rakin
Rashad
Rashid
Ratib
Rayhan
Reda
Rida
Ridha
Ridwan
Riyad
Riyadh
Sabih
Sabeeh
Sabir
Sabeer
Saad
Sadaqat
Sa'eed
Sa'id
Safiy
Safwan
Sahir
Sajid
Salah
Salah al Din
Saleh
Salih
Salim
Saleem
Salman
Sameh
Sami
Samir
Sameer
Samman
Saqr
Sariyah
Saud
Sayyar
Sayyid
Seif
Sayf
Seif al Din
Shadi
Shafiq
Shafeeq
Shakir
Sharif
Shareef
Shihab
Siraj
Sofian
Subhi
Suhail
Suhayl
Suhayb
Sulaiman
Sulayman
Su'ud
Suoud
Tahir
Talal
Talib
Tamir
Tamam
Tarif
Tariq
Tawfiq
Taymullah
Taysir
Tayyib
Thabit
Thaqib
Ubadah
Ubaida
Ubaydah
Ubaid
Ubayy
Umar
Umarah
Umayr
Umair
Usama
Usamah
Utbah
Uthman
Wadi
Wafid
Wafiq
Wafeeq
Wahid
Wa'il
Wajih
Wajeeh
Wakil
Waleed
Walid
Walliyullah
Wasim
Waseem
Wazir
Yahyah
Yaman
Ya'qub
Yasar
Yasser
Yasin
Yaseen
Yasir
Yazid
Yazeed
Youssef
Yusef
Yusuf
Yunus
Yoonus
Yushua
Yusuf
Zafar
Zafir
Zahid
Zahir
Zaid
Zayd
Zaim
Zakariyya
Zaki
Zakiy
Ziyad
Zubair
Zuhair
Zuhayr

Instructions to follow.

[Malleus Dei]

1. Assign frequency data to the name file. You'll have to seat of the pants it, but you've been over there so you have a rough idea of frequencies. 1 is the base frequency, I would suggest making 20 your most common.

The file format is

Name,frequency

and it ends with a "#"

2. Now do your surnames as you proposed using the above data. Assign frequencies. Make a surname file with the the format

Surname,frequency

and it ends with a "#" (look familiar?)

3. Do this RIGHT AWAY (like tonight)

4. PM Battists when done and get his email address

5. Get the files to him ASAP

If you do this he *may* be able to convert them to OOTP 2006 format and get them into the game in time for release. Obviously I can't promise anything for the game or him, though.

Good luck.

Mal, disrespected names guru

[bababui]

MD...i bet if I wanted to start a Laplander League you could provide a full set of names. Good work.

[kagnew35]

Mal, u r truly remarkable/ except fpr dupes caused by spelling same names differently, list is great. abdul is actually half a name tho, as it means slave of the abd is slave, al is the definite article and may be followed by any of your name list names. and there is no need for a 2nd name file. as there are none, people ae known as son of (ibn) followed by fathers name. altogether a fine list, ty.

so in using list can use abdulrahman ibn abd alaziz, that was ibn saud, father of all the saudi kings, for example, tho full name was abdalazaiz ibn abdalraman alfeisal al saud, but he was a king

[silvam14]

Originally Posted by kagnew35

for example, tho full name was abdalazaiz ibn abdalraman alfeisal al saud, but he was a king

Sure, if you want to get techinal about it

[markprior22]

lol

[kagnew35]

sorry if this is dumb, mal, but does # go after each name? and will get it to btiste tomnite

[Malleus Dei]

Originally Posted by kagnew35

sorry if this is dumb, mal, but does # go after each name? and will get it to btiste tomnite

6/6.5 Format is:

Zakiy,1
Ziyad,1
Zubair,1
Zuhair,2
Zuhayr,1
#

where # = end of file

Battists can handle the conversion to OOTP 2006 format.

[Malleus Dei]

Originally Posted by bababui

MD...i bet if I wanted to start a Laplander League you could provide a full set of names. Good work.

Thanks.

[Malleus Dei]

Originally Posted by kagnew35

Mal, u r truly remarkable/ except fpr dupes caused by spelling same names differently, list is great.

Name file trick: leave in the differently spelled dupes, and give the rarer ones lower frequencies. When you generate players using my U.S. Euro set you may get Rob Johnson, or you may get the less common Robb Johnson, or you may even get Rob Johnsen or you could possibly get Robb Johnsen. Doing that adds a little realism, variety and depth.