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Old 06-08-2006, 03:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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200 year sim...

Fictional players. majors, 2 sub-leagues, each with 3 divisions with 4 teams (24 total teams).
Start year: 2006
End year: 2205
25 Man active roster
50 Man reserve
No minors
No other leagues
Complete coaching and scouting
Create hidden characters ON
All modifiers set at 1.000
Half with original game, half with the newest patch

Some interesting Stats

Season/Career
AVG: .420/.349
OPS: 1.425/1.116
Hits: 258/4313
HR's: 76/1076
RBI: 187/2738
SB: 109/941
ERA: 1.06 (204 IP)/2.10
Wins: 26/325
Saves: 57/804
SHO: 9/45
K's: 384/5274

Interesting Facts:
- Only 2 seasons of 70+ HR's (76 and 72). There were 2 69's, 1 68, and 3 67's.
- The .400 plateau was broken 5 times. A 6th time was 1 hit or walk away, as he finished with a .3993 average.
- The 100 steal plateau was broken just that once. One other time a guy finished with 99 SB's. Only 6 times total did we see a 90+ SB season from 6 different guys.
- 4 year into his career, Basilio Baldez set the single season ERA mark with 1.06 ove 204 innings pitched. Next year, he was a middle relief pitcher.
- The top 5 single season K's leader was set by only 2 pitchers. Xian-yao Liang had 384 (#1), 376 (#3), 368 (#t4) with a total of 4697 (#6) over 4011 innings pitched, and Danny O'Murphy with 378 (#2), 368 (#t4) for a total of 3523 over 3137.1 innings pitched.
- The 300 win mark was surpassed just 11 times over 200 seasons with the highest being 325.

Team stats:
- The winningest franchise in terms of winning percentage were the Atlanta Braves with a 17434-14811 record (.541).
- The losingest franchise were the Washington Nationals 15302-16942 (.475).
- The most championships went to Atlanta with 15, then Anaheim with 13, then 3 other teams with 12.
- The least number of championships are Washington and Seattle with 3 each. 1 team has 4, and 3 with 5.
- The most consecutive championships was Philadelphia with 4 in a row during the 2058-2061 seasons. No other team had 3 in a row, and several times teams won back to back.

HOF Stats:
- 226 position players made it in
- 118 pitchers did the same
- 1 player won 12 MVP's, another had 10 MVP's.
- The most Cy Youngs was 8 for 1 player, several had 7.
- The most All Star game for 1 player was 20.
**Note**
HOF requirements were edited slightly from the default
Min Hits: 3200
Min HR: 500
Min Avg: .300
Min hits for Avg above: 2750
Min VORP: 750
Min Wins: 275
Min Saves: 500
Max ERA: 3.50
Min wins for ERA above: 225

League Info:
- 22188 players have retired from this league (although I don't know if this game saves EVERY retiree).
- 2 Armenians have made it in the 200 year history (both infielders, 1 was an all-star)
- 1 Belgian (pitcher)
- 2 from the British Virgin Islands (C, LF)
- 1 SS from Brunai
- 1 1b from Denmark, a 5-time all star, finished with 344 HR's.
- 1 1b from Estonia
- 5 from France
- 2 Germans
- 3 from Ghana
- 1 from Honduras
- 4 from Hungary
- 1 from India
- 2 from Israel
- 3 from the Ivory Coast
- 1 from Kasakstan
- 1 from Liberia
Not doing any number crunching, but it seems like the league average hovers around .260-.265 every year and the league ERA is around 4.30 or so. Some higher and some lower years, but right around those numbers.

ok, that's enough countries. If you want to know about a specific one, just post and I'll try to find you the answer.

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Old 06-08-2006, 03:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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My question is how did you do this? When I try and make it through 100 years straight without stopping my machine grinds to a hault because of improper memory managment as shown by this graph:



Were you closing OOTP every 20 years or so? What league? I'm using the default MAL for my tests. I've gotten work from Marc that they are working on the issue I've reported so I do know its an issue.
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Old 06-08-2006, 03:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Cool. 100 years in a day?
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Old 06-08-2006, 03:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Well, the game only allows 50 years at a time, so at the end of hte 50 years, I would just save/quit/restart. I would do this as a rule, not because I would notice a significant decrease in performance though. I'm pretty sure I could do all 200 years without restarting the game.
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Old 06-08-2006, 03:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Oh, and I forgot to add these 2 notes:
1. No Crashes EVER during all 200 years
2. File size at the end

Size: 395MB (414,649,556 bytes)
Size on Disk: 507MB (532,516,864 bytes)
48,081 files, 19 folders
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Cool. 100 years in a day?
Yup... just started it up and let it go on its own... at work, lol.

For those wondering, I'm using a Hewlett-Packard HP d530 SFF (PB135UA) brand computer. Comes with P4 3GHz, 512 MB RAM.
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Well it appears I'm doing my sim with a boat load more teams (all 30 major plus all levels of the minors) so that may be why I'm seeing the issues and you are not. Also, the game allows more than 50 years you just can't select more than 50 at once. So just click the year, scroll down 50 years, then do it again and Youl be at 100.
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Well it appears I'm doing my sim with a boat load more teams (all 30 major plus all levels of the minors) so that may be why I'm seeing the issues and you are not. Also, the game allows more than 50 years you just can't select more than 50 at once. So just click the year, scroll down 50 years, then do it again and Youl be at 100.
Ah, i didn't know that
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**Note**
HOF requirements were edited slightly from the default
Min Hits: 3200
Min HR: 500
Min Avg: .300
Min hits for Avg above: 2750
Min VORP: 750
Min Wins: 275
Min Saves: 500
Max ERA: 3.50
Min wins for ERA above: 225
I havent seen this feature. How does thsi work?
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Oh, and I forgot to add these 2 notes:
1. No Crashes EVER during all 200 years
2. File size at the end

Size: 395MB (414,649,556 bytes)
Size on Disk: 507MB (532,516,864 bytes)
48,081 files, 19 folders
What stat detail setting was this run at? I'm tempted to do a 200 year run now...
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I havent seen this feature. How does thsi work?
In the league setup screen

Under the "options" tab
scroll all the way to the bottom
You should see the numbers there
you can set HOF standards for batters and pitchers.
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What stat detail setting was this run at? I'm tempted to do a 200 year run now...
"Very High Detail"

Remember, I don't have any minors and 50 players max on each team (24 teams)
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domonas, thanks for sharing this great info with us. It looks like the default settings are really good. Maybe a few too many homers...at least for me. Looks like Markus did a great job on it.

If you can, let us know the age distribution of the players.

Did you see any players 18-21 that came in and were productive starters and regulars right away? That is .280 hitters and 15 game winners.

Did players play well into their late thirties on a realistic basis?

How old did they get and still produce for their team at a high level? Late 30s and early 40s?

Did players debut in the 21-24 age group? In the past it was usually 25 before they could be a productive player. Again .280 hitters and 15-game winners.

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domonas, thanks for sharing this great info with us. It looks like the default settings are really good. Maybe a few too many homers...at least for me. Looks like Markus did a great job on it.

If you can, let us know the age distribution of the players.

Did you see any players 18-21 that came in and were productive starters and regulars right away? That is .280 hitters and 15 game winners.

Did players play well into their late thirties on a realistic basis?

How old did they get and still produce for their team at a high level? Late 30s and early 40s?

Did players debut in the 21-24 age group? In the past it was usually 25 before they could be a productive player. Again .280 hitters and 15-game winners.
I can tell you the current age distribution.
- Going to the transaction screen and looking at "Show All Players" and filtering by age
-- 198 players are 21 or younger, with 18 being the youngest (23 players are at that age)
-- 407 between 22 and 25
-- 437 between 26-30
-- 226 between 31-35
-- 48 are at least 36 or older with the oldest being 43

Looking for productive 18-21 year olds, I simmed one season with the current roster (the age distribution you see above) and...
-- no 18 year olds started a single game (well, 1 player went 1/8 in 8 games played, and 1 pitcher had 2 IP in 1 game). No other 18 year olds had any stats.
-- 1 19 year old threw for 123 innings (current and pot ratings are 13/13/9 on a 1-20 scale).
-- 1 19 year old had 263 AB's hitting .269/9/33 (current/pot are 6/-/8 and 15/-/14)
-- 1 20 year old had 285 AB's hitting .270/3/24.
-- 1 20 year old pitcher threw for 157 innings going 8-10 with a 4.77 ERA.
With 19 and 20 year olds, there were a few others with stats, but none seemed significant enough to post about.
-- 2 21 year old starters showed significant playing time, and 1 21 year old relief pitcher logged 63 innings. None I would consider a breakout type of year.
-- 7 21 year old batters logged significant play time. one of the 21 year olds hit .293/26/91.
-- a bunch of 22 year old batters showed significant play time with 12 logging more than 200 at bats. 2 guys hit over 35 HR's with over 100 RBI's.
-- 2 SP's and 6 RP's aged 22 showed good playtime. None I'd consider breakout years.
-- Looking at my HOFers, most started getting playtime around 20-21 years old with breakout years starting at 22-23 years old.
-----one of my HOFers with over 1000 career HR's was born on 2134, drafted at age 18, made his major league debut at 20, breakout year at 23, retired at 44.
-----the other HOFer with over 1000 HR's was born on 1992, drafted at age 19, debuted at 20, breakout at 21, retired at 45 years old.
-----the winningest pitcher in my league history (at 325 wins), born on 2106, drafted at 19, debuted at 20, breakout at 23, retired at 41.
-----the best closer ever (804 saves) born on 2076, drafted at 19, debuted that same year, breakout at 22, retired at 42 years old.

As for players playing well into their 30's... it seems to hold true more for batters than pitchers. But there are many cases of pitchers pitching well into their 30's.

The HOFers definitely produce into their 40's. The closer I just mentioned at 40, 41, and 42 years old had 27, 35, and 28 saves with ERA's at 4.44, 3.10, and 3.56. It seems like if they don't hit a wall in their late 30's, they definitely hit a wall in their mid-40's. Both 1000 HR guys hit like .220 their final years, although they did hit double digit HR's.

I think I answered your last question with my examples above.

Hope that helps!
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What about AI decisions?
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A 43 year old SS hit .306/17/71 with 529 AB's. But not many other 40+ guys played a significant role on his team.

Only 5 pitchers aged 40+ (2 SP, 3 MR) all logged significant play time. Servicable, innings eaters, but not superstars.
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Gotta be more specific... we are talking about 200 years worth of info to go through.

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How do you sim more than one year at a time? I think I've missed this.
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How do you sim more than one year at a time? I think I've missed this.
Go to "Scores and Schedules"
You should see the current date
click on the year and progress it to the year you want
now look bottom right, under "auto play"
click on autoplay ....until selected date (whatever date you picked)
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