So I've created my league....

[Kyros]

....and I am now contemplating starting my serious career/league. However, I think I would rather wait for patch # 2 since I don't actually mind waiting a bit longer to fix a few things that could potetially hurt the gameplay. The only thing that I am concerned about is if the league I have created will take FULL advantage of the new additions/fixes/updates that patch 2 will address. What I have done and all I have done at this point is that I've created the league with logos, team colors, ballparks, ballpark factors & effects, and a few other things. I have all the minor leagues set up with ballparks, ect and ready to go. Right now I am at the VERY beginning of the start of the leagues creation (in the game). The next step for me is the inaugural draft which is where I am waiting for patch 2.

My question(s) are this;

* Do you believe and based on past patches/updates from Markus will my league take FULL advantage of the patch like additions, fixes, ect.? Remember, I have yet to do anything in the game like drafting, signing players or even scouting players for that matter as I am waiting for the patch to begin. In the game that date is actually 1-2-1940.

* Secondly, did I make a mistake by creating everything to early? In other words, because I created the league without patch 2 will anything in the patch actually show up in the league at all at any point? This question may sound a bit redundant - sounding like the first question I asked, but in reality it is different. The point or question I am concerned about here is that since I spent over 4 hours creating this league entering names, logos, cities, ect without patch 2 will this league even recognize the patch?

...Now if the patch is applied without any errors and everything goes smoothly and the league does infact take full advantage of patch 2 will the fixes and/or additions be only applied after season 1 (or in this case 1940) OR will I see patch 2 updates immediatly in season 1 (1940) - in other words I won't have to wait for the following season (1941) to enjoy the patch, remembering that I have yet to do anything in the game itself as far as transactions, or anything.

Please understand I am not familiar with Markus' ways of conducting patches, ect since I came over from PureSimBB just last year when Markus released v6.5 which ultimately is what made me purchase OOTPB6 & 6.5 - of course Catobase was a huge deciding factor in my decision as well. And to get a bit off topic here - Ironically the same features that brought me over to OOTPB 6 & 6.5 are no longer apart of the game. Those features I am talking about are milestones, rare-feats, shop player and a few other nice little additions.


Anyways, to get back "On-topic" what would you guys think or feel as far as what I asked regarding the patches and how it may effect my career/league?

Thanks for any feedback I get on this topic as I am very concerned I may have jumped the gun here.

Thanks for reading.

[CBLCardinals]

Good question Kyros...would love to hear an "official" answer from the crew

[Kyros]

Originally Posted by CBLCardinals

Good question Kyros...would love to hear an "official" answer from the crew

Thank you CBL.
Well hopefully Marc or Markus (or any of the beta testers) would be willing to answer this. Since it is their (Marc & Markus') morning they should be around here in a few hours or so.

[Zitofan75]

Originally Posted by Kyros

Thank you CBL.
Well hopefully Marc or Markus (or any of the beta testers) would be willing to answer this. Since it is their (Marc & Markus') morning they should be around here in a few hours or so.

I'm curious too. I've been waiting for patch 2 before diving in too deeply but a response here might change my mind.

[Kyros]

Well Marc is on right now so I hope he reads and responds.

[Questdog]

Originally Posted by CBLCardinals

Good question Kyros...would love to hear an "official" answer from the crew

You have the scariest Avatar I've ever seen....

BTW, there's no reason to believe that the patch won't work on leagues already started....I don't recall them ever not...

[Marc Duffy]

Whilst every effort is made to make things compatible, I always advocate starting a new game with each patch if you can (just makes things cleaner).

Therefore, if you are creating your universe I would simply wait till patch2 and use patch1 as the dress rehersal to get things how you want them

[Claymore]

I'd wait just in case, particularly with the amount of fixes going into patch 2.

[Kyros]

Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

Whilst every effort is made to make things compatible, I always advocate starting a new game with each patch if you can (just makes things cleaner).

Therefore, if you are creating your universe I would simply wait till patch2 and use patch1 as the dress rehersal to get things how you want them

Remember, I haven't yet started my league perse. All I did was create it and basically saved it as a "quick-start". In other words, there have been no transactions of any sort and not one single player has been signed or even scouted. So you are saying that even league creation is to much of a start and that when patch 2 comes out I should redo everything and scrap the current one - again even though I have yet to even do anyting in the league as it has remained COMPLETELY idle?

[akw4572]

I'm at that same point Kyros, but I'm doing a dress rehearsal. I simmed a season last night and it took forever with ALL levels of minors. So I'm gonna wait for the patch and see if sim speed improves with the "memory leak" fix, if not I'm going to take out a level or two of minors.

[gordyhulten]

Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

Whilst every effort is made to make things compatible, I always advocate starting a new game with each patch if you can (just makes things cleaner).

Therefore, if you are creating your universe I would simply wait till patch2 and use patch1 as the dress rehersal to get things how you want them

This is why we really, really need the ability to save a game during league creation, before we press "start game." I've literally spent dozens of hours creating my fictional universe, while waiting for patch #2. Now it looks like that work may have been in vain, and I should have just shelved the game completely.

Grrrrrrr. OOTP2006 is really testing my patience, primarily because I JUST WANT TO SAVE THE GAME DURING LEAGUE CREATION!!!

[andymac]

Originally Posted by Kyros

Remember, I haven't yet started my league perse. All I did was create it and basically saved it as a "quick-start". In other words, there have been no transactions of any sort and not one single player has been signed or even scouted. So you are saying that even league creation is to much of a start and that when patch 2 comes out I should redo everything and scrap the current one - again even though I have yet to even do anyting in the league as it has remained COMPLETELY idle?

There are typically a lot of things done at league creation. I believe some of the files (like name, nation, city) are saved in their original form from creation on, so I would think that there is a good chance there will be things that are effected by the patch that only happen at creation.

[Questdog]

Originally Posted by akw4572

I'm at that same point Kyros, but I'm doing a dress rehearsal. I simmed a season last night and it took forever with ALL levels of minors. So I'm gonna wait for the patch and see if sim speed improves with the "memory leak" fix, if not I'm going to take out a level or two of minors.

Two things that can really speed up simming:

1) Turn the ticker off.

2) Don't save any box scores.(or at least limit them)

[akw4572]

Originally Posted by Questdog

Two things that can really speed up simming:

1) Turn the ticker off.

2) Don't save any box scores.(or at least limit them)

I have both off. Maybe I'm just used to the MLB Lahman league I ran where I had now minor leagues and did a different test sim.

[Kyros]

Originally Posted by andymac

There are typically a lot of things done at league creation. I believe some of the files (like name, nation, city) are saved in their original form from creation on, so I would think that there is a good chance there will be things that are effected by the patch that only happen at creation.

If this is the case then I'm not sure what I'm gonna do..........

[Raidergoo]

Originally Posted by Kyros

Remember, I haven't yet started my league perse. All I did was create it and basically saved it as a "quick-start". In other words, there have been no transactions of any sort and not one single player has been signed or even scouted. So you are saying that even league creation is to much of a start and that when patch 2 comes out I should redo everything and scrap the current one - again even though I have yet to even do anyting in the league as it has remained COMPLETELY idle?

I would start it up, and apply patches as they are offered.

Your happiness and frustration mary vary. I am simming swimmingly, getting several weeks in each night. Others I talk to and try to duplicate their errors are in worlds of hurt.

[Kyros]

Originally Posted by Raidergoo

I would start it up, and apply patches as they are offered.

Your happiness and frustration mary vary. I am simming swimmingly, getting several weeks in each night. Others I talk to and try to duplicate their errors are in worlds of hurt.

Thanks for the reply.

But remember, my concern here is the fact that the patch will not be fully taken advantage of. Even though I have yet to do anything in the game even so much as to scout a player in the leagues inaugural draft. I am purposely waiting so that I can apply the patch before I start. However, this is where I am concerned and a bit confused. Even though I ONLY set-up the league and put everything into place my concern is if the patch will apply to my league and if it does indeed apply to my league will it apply itself immediately - in other words, will the things addressed in the patch be applied in my inaugural season? Thats my concern.

Or did I screw up and should I just re-create the league, spending another 4 or so hours setting up the league with patch 2 already installed.


To sum it all up (LOL!) will it or does it even matter that I created the league without patch 2 applied or should I not be worried because the patch will address any issues even thoguh I already set my league up?

Again, any help, feedback, advice, or information from any of the beta testers would greatly appreciated here. As shown in my thread, I am very....very dedicated to my sports simulations (as they are hobbies to me) and all I am looking for here is some information if I should have just waited or setting up the league was just fine but just do not go any further at this point, not until patch 2 is installed.

[Raidergoo]

Patch 2 is not going to turn coal into a diamond. It's going to fix some things. What will it fix? I have a good idea. What else will it fix? That I can't say, as I don't know. Marc is telling you what's getting tested. It's not like a new weather feature is being added or any big secrets are being kept. We're looking at stupid bullpen use and the like. More issues will be looked at soon.

What will it fix? Stay tuned. It should be documented.

What won't it fix? Other stuff.

Without precise knowledge of all your game universe design choices, and the outcome of patch testing, I can offer only pablum as advice.

To quote Dr. Seuss:

Try it, and you'll see.

[Kyros]

Originally Posted by Raidergoo

Patch 2 is not going to turn coal into a diamond. It's going to fix some things. What will it fix? I have a good idea. What else will it fix? That I can't say, as I don't know. Marc is telling you what's getting tested. It's not like a new weather feature is being added or any big secrets are being kept. We're looking at stupid bullpen use and the like. More issues will be looked at soon.

What will it fix? Stay tuned. It should be documented.

What won't it fix? Other stuff.

Without precise knowledge of all your game universe design choices, and the outcome of patch testing, I can offer only pablum as advice.

To quote Dr. Seuss:

Try it, and you'll see.

I'm not asking what is getting fixed though. I am just wondering if the patch will get applied in the cuurent season of the game or if I should just scrap my already created universe and create another on when the patch is released. I could careless what is getting fixed (in this post I can care less) as I am just concenred if the patch itself will be applied and address the issues if a league was already created. Thats all.

[Raidergoo]

Best results will come from a new start after each patch.