Where's the Stuff?

BravesSince66 · 03-22-2007, 07:33 PM

Overall first impressions are favorable. It's great how you can import complete history in a new historical league now. Very nice!

The only "weird" thing I see right off is that the STUFF ratings from Lahman 5.4 all seem low compared with past (2006, 6.5, etc.) imports. Is this what others are finding??

Looks pretty cool so far!

bp_ · 03-22-2007, 07:57 PM

what year did you import? If it is deadball then you will end up with lower stuff ratings.

BravesSince66 · 03-22-2007, 09:33 PM

I have imported 1958, 1974, 1998. I have also used Lahaman 5.4 and Gambo 1.5. The game imports STUFF lower than in the past in my opinion. In 2006 most pitchers with "yellow" in their STUFF ratings. Now most are "orange" - by far. Now, perhaps this is a reflection of other changes to the game engine. I haven't simmed much yet so I don't how it affects K's. Just an immediate observation. More orange now it seems...way more.

Curtis · 03-23-2007, 04:38 AM

Ability to strike batters out is now a function of both STUFF and VELOCITY. It may be that the stuff ratings are lower because when averaged with the velocity ratings they yield the apprpriate strikeout frequencies.

Or not.

03-22-2007, 07:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
BravesSince66 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 238 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Where's the Stuff? Overall first impressions are favorable. It's great how you can import complete history in a new historical league now. Very nice! The only "weird" thing I see right off is that the STUFF ratings from Lahman 5.4 all seem low compared with past (2006, 6.5, etc.) imports. Is this what others are finding?? Looks pretty cool so far!

03-22-2007, 07:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
bp_ Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 2,642 Thanks: 54 Thanked 23x in 11 posts	what year did you import? If it is deadball then you will end up with lower stuff ratings. __________________ "al Qaeda wouldn't last a day in parts of Philadelphia" - Mayor Michael Nutter

03-22-2007, 09:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
BravesSince66 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 238 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Not deadball Stuff I have imported 1958, 1974, 1998. I have also used Lahaman 5.4 and Gambo 1.5. The game imports STUFF lower than in the past in my opinion. In 2006 most pitchers with "yellow" in their STUFF ratings. Now most are "orange" - by far. Now, perhaps this is a reflection of other changes to the game engine. I haven't simmed much yet so I don't how it affects K's. Just an immediate observation. More orange now it seems...way more.

03-23-2007, 04:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
Curtis Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Watertown, New York Posts: 4,530 Thanks: 1 Thanked 108x in 91 posts	Ability to strike batters out is now a function of both STUFF and VELOCITY. It may be that the stuff ratings are lower because when averaged with the velocity ratings they yield the apprpriate strikeout frequencies. Or not. __________________ 2012 — The year for Inside The Park 2!

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