Color me sad

mrbill · 07-09-2007, 03:39 AM

I bought 2007 this week for my two online leagues that are converting. I didn't buy 2006 and still run a 5.14 online league.

But, I said, man, people seem to really like this game, I'm going to try a solo league. I ran like 2 months of my season, was just simming a day at a time and doing lineups. Crash.

Like an hour and a half of playing (most of it just learning my way around), all gone.

Now, I don't know what happened or if it'll happen again, I was just looking at my homepage and simming. Is there any sort of crash log file?

I'm still pretty excited for my online leagues, but OOTP 2007 just suffered a major injury and I think a severe "potential" loss for solo play by my scouting. Someone tell me this doesn't happen often

BadluckinOOTP · 07-09-2007, 03:42 AM

I've never had it crash in any way on me before! So maybe you just hit a weird bug?

Qrusher14242 · 07-09-2007, 05:28 AM

i just lost i league of 20 years cause of a crash

Sucks when it happens

RonCo · 07-09-2007, 07:20 AM

I don't think I've had a crash since a February beta build.

ctorg · 07-09-2007, 09:08 AM

I definitely have more crashes with 2006/2007 than with previous versions. There hasn't been much change between 2006 and 2007 for me either. Crashes come at odd times. Most often, they happen when I click on a player in a lineup screen during a game or do a few quick clicks in a row. I definitely have to keep it in mind to save my game often.

However, it's worth it for the upgrade in ability that 2007 brings.

injury log · 07-09-2007, 09:10 AM

I have had a small number of crashes, but I can at least identify what action has caused them. A few notes:

-it is my understanding that a patch will be released quite soon, which I'd guess will resolve some, hopefully most, crash issues;

-the latest release of CubbyFan's roster set seems to be crashing many games after a month of simming. This just came up recently, so hopefully will be fixed in his next roster update;

-FaceGen seems to cause crashes for some. Updating video card drivers should at least make such crashes less likely. Worst case, you can disable FaceGen;

-When pitchers are injured late in a game that's being played out, this can cause a crash. This is a known bug, and I'll be very surprised if it isn't fixed in the next patch; (someone can correct me if I'm mistaken, but I think this was claimed fixed in the most recent patch, but wasn't completely fixed.)

-I have one regular crash, FaceGen-related, using CubbyFan's roster set. Otherwise my game has only crashed in two situations: when accessing the scouting tasklist screen, and after bookmarking the Player Shortlist screen and trying to use the bookmark. Both crashes occur regularly, but not always. No one else seems to have had these specific problems, so I just save my game before attempting to use Scouting Tasklists, I don't bookmark the Player Shortlist, and I almost never see a game crash.

silvam14 · 07-09-2007, 09:46 AM

Odd, I haven't had one crash, perhaps I'm not using some functionality that some of you are using.

With that being said, I usuall save my game after each day or so and make regular backups.

Assos · 07-09-2007, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by injury log

-When pitchers are injured late in a game that's being played out, this can cause a crash. This is a known bug, and I'll be very surprised if it isn't fixed in the next patch; (someone can correct me if I'm mistaken, but I think this was claimed fixed in the most recent patch, but wasn't completely fixed.)

Still there....

Syd Thrift · 07-09-2007, 12:13 PM

Were you doing anything in particular before the crash? Personally, I haven't had any crashes since the game got out of beta, but I'd definitely like to try and reconstruct any crashes you may have run into.

mh2365 · 07-09-2007, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvam14

Odd, I haven't had one crash, perhaps I'm not using some functionality that some of you are using.

With that being said, I usuall save my game after each day or so and make regular backups.

I'm almost OCD about saving and backing up so I never lose more than a week or so of ingame time. The time I notice it crashing was mentioned above - when I make a few clicks in rapid succession.

CBL-Commish · 07-09-2007, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvam14

Odd, I haven't had one crash, perhaps I'm not using some functionality that some of you are using.

With that being said, I usuall save my game after each day or so and make regular backups.

Same thing. I'm even running a league that's been converted from V2 to V3 to V4 to V6 to V6.5 to V2006 to V2007. Not a single crash with 2007 despite a 40-league universe and FaceGen.

Rainers · 07-09-2007, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by injury log

-When pitchers are injured late in a game that's being played out, this can cause a crash. This is a known bug, and I'll be very surprised if it isn't fixed in the next patch; (someone can correct me if I'm mistaken, but I think this was claimed fixed in the most recent patch, but wasn't completely fixed.)

I can verify this crash is still around with the current patch, because I just had this happen to me last night in the 7th inn. of a playoff game.

mrbill · 07-09-2007, 02:02 PM

Probably no chance at reconstructing this one... I'll likely just be making lineups and exporting to FTP, I probably won't have the time to do a solo league really.

Of course, that's always worked for me, and honestly I don't expect the game never to crash, it seems far more involved than past versions and even those freaked out once in a while.

I should just learn to save more often

Assos · 07-09-2007, 02:06 PM

Can't be as bad as my league crashing in 6.51 and I reload and I get a pitching staff of squares.

Syd Thrift · 07-09-2007, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainers

I can verify this crash is still around with the current patch, because I just had this happen to me last night in the 7th inn. of a playoff game.

Really? I've looked for this all over the place and have never seen it. I even had a pitcher once get hurt on the very last play of the game. At first it appeared that the game wasn't going to let me swap the pitcher out and would keep me on that page forever, but then I noticed the "End Game" button on the lower left-hand corner of the screen.

Zitofan75 · 07-09-2007, 05:14 PM

So far, no crashes of any kind. Still, I have it save monthly. Slows me down a bit but would prefer that then to watching a season go away.

Althius · 07-09-2007, 05:49 PM

I get the occasional CTD when dragging and dropping. Things get real slow and then it just pops to desktop. It's happened to me two or three times. So I try to remember to save as much as possible.

Syd Thrift · 07-09-2007, 05:51 PM

Huh. I've seen it get really slow when dragging and dropping to lineups and rotations, and I always expect it's going to CTD, but it has never actually done that to me so far. How much RAM do you have?

Althius · 07-09-2007, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

How much RAM do you have?

1GB. Although I have a habit of leaving my email running in the background.

Charlie Hough · 07-09-2007, 08:40 PM

Always backup your saved games. If you're working on a saved game that has lasted a number of seasons, you absolutely MUST produce a backup of it, almost every time you finishing playing it. Otherwise you're tempting fate.

07-09-2007, 03:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
mrbill All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: LA, CA Posts: 977	Color me sad I bought 2007 this week for my two online leagues that are converting. I didn't buy 2006 and still run a 5.14 online league. But, I said, man, people seem to really like this game, I'm going to try a solo league. I ran like 2 months of my season, was just simming a day at a time and doing lineups. Crash. Like an hour and a half of playing (most of it just learning my way around), all gone. Now, I don't know what happened or if it'll happen again, I was just looking at my homepage and simming. Is there any sort of crash log file? I'm still pretty excited for my online leagues, but OOTP 2007 just suffered a major injury and I think a severe "potential" loss for solo play by my scouting. Someone tell me this doesn't happen often __________________ UBL - Los Angeles Dodgers: 10 seasons, 4 NL West titles, 1 WC, 4 NL Titles, 2-time Champs LBB (retired) - Detroit Tigers/Commish: 19 seasons, 18 straight AL Central titles, 2006, 2008, 2014, 2015 Champs! NGBL (dead) - Texas Rangers: 10 seasons, 4 AL South titles, 2 Wild Cards, one WS app

07-09-2007, 03:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
BadluckinOOTP All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: OKC Posts: 1,414 Thanked 28x in 8 posts	I've never had it crash in any way on me before! So maybe you just hit a weird bug? __________________

07-09-2007, 05:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
Qrusher14242 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: CA Posts: 1,118 Thanked 7x in 6 posts	i just lost i league of 20 years cause of a crash Sucks when it happens __________________ "Go then, there are other worlds than these"

07-09-2007, 09:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 9,701 Thanked 91x in 51 posts	I definitely have more crashes with 2006/2007 than with previous versions. There hasn't been much change between 2006 and 2007 for me either. Crashes come at odd times. Most often, they happen when I click on a player in a lineup screen during a game or do a few quick clicks in a row. I definitely have to keep it in mind to save my game often. However, it's worth it for the upgrade in ability that 2007 brings. __________________ THE VERY US ARTISTS - A project for musicians and visual artists My music Currently reading: Thirteen by Richard Morgan "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

07-09-2007, 09:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
injury log Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,415 Thanked 346x in 168 posts	I have had a small number of crashes, but I can at least identify what action has caused them. A few notes: -it is my understanding that a patch will be released quite soon, which I'd guess will resolve some, hopefully most, crash issues; -the latest release of CubbyFan's roster set seems to be crashing many games after a month of simming. This just came up recently, so hopefully will be fixed in his next roster update; -FaceGen seems to cause crashes for some. Updating video card drivers should at least make such crashes less likely. Worst case, you can disable FaceGen; -When pitchers are injured late in a game that's being played out, this can cause a crash. This is a known bug, and I'll be very surprised if it isn't fixed in the next patch; (someone can correct me if I'm mistaken, but I think this was claimed fixed in the most recent patch, but wasn't completely fixed.) -I have one regular crash, FaceGen-related, using CubbyFan's roster set. Otherwise my game has only crashed in two situations: when accessing the scouting tasklist screen, and after bookmarking the Player Shortlist screen and trying to use the bookmark. Both crashes occur regularly, but not always. No one else seems to have had these specific problems, so I just save my game before attempting to use Scouting Tasklists, I don't bookmark the Player Shortlist, and I almost never see a game crash. Last edited by injury log; 07-09-2007 at 09:12 AM.

07-09-2007, 07:20 AM	#4 (permalink)
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 6,566 Thanked 147x in 66 posts	I don't think I've had a crash since a February beta build.

07-09-2007, 09:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
silvam14 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Medford, MA Posts: 3,678 Thanked 353x in 163 posts	Odd, I haven't had one crash, perhaps I'm not using some functionality that some of you are using. With that being said, I usuall save my game after each day or so and make regular backups. __________________ Senior "Nancy Boy" of the OOTP Boards _______________________________________________ Check out my Fictional Uniform Project! http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...007%20Jerseys/

07-09-2007, 02:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
mrbill All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: LA, CA Posts: 977	Probably no chance at reconstructing this one... I'll likely just be making lineups and exporting to FTP, I probably won't have the time to do a solo league really. Of course, that's always worked for me, and honestly I don't expect the game never to crash, it seems far more involved than past versions and even those freaked out once in a while. I should just learn to save more often __________________ UBL - Los Angeles Dodgers: 10 seasons, 4 NL West titles, 1 WC, 4 NL Titles, 2-time Champs LBB (retired) - Detroit Tigers/Commish: 19 seasons, 18 straight AL Central titles, 2006, 2008, 2014, 2015 Champs! NGBL (dead) - Texas Rangers: 10 seasons, 4 AL South titles, 2 Wild Cards, one WS app

07-09-2007, 02:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
Assos All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Just on the fair side of the foul pole! Posts: 742 Thanked 8x in 8 posts	Can't be as bad as my league crashing in 6.51 and I reload and I get a pitching staff of squares.

07-09-2007, 05:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
Zitofan75 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,329	So far, no crashes of any kind. Still, I have it save monthly. Slows me down a bit but would prefer that then to watching a season go away.

07-09-2007, 05:49 PM	#17 (permalink)
Althius Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 102	I get the occasional CTD when dragging and dropping. Things get real slow and then it just pops to desktop. It's happened to me two or three times. So I try to remember to save as much as possible.

07-09-2007, 08:40 PM	#20 (permalink)
Charlie Hough All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,501 Thanked 294x in 155 posts	Always backup your saved games. If you're working on a saved game that has lasted a number of seasons, you absolutely MUST produce a backup of it, almost every time you finishing playing it. Otherwise you're tempting fate.

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