OOTP 8 released! - Page 3

The Wolf · 12-08-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by robster1225

SION should be the only SI stuff you see.

It's not. SION is also all over team home pages as well.

robster1225 · 12-08-2007, 01:44 PM

The The milestone watch, is certainly cool.

I think 5.99 is definitely a fair price for OOTP2007 owners.

The Wolf · 12-08-2007, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by robster1225

From what I understand, SION would have taken way to long to remove.

There's no amount of time that would have been "way too long." What you are telling us is that someone didn't want to do it.

robster1225 · 12-08-2007, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Wolf

It's not. SION is also all over team home pages as well.

Right, as I said, SION is the only SI stuff you should see.

robster1225 · 12-08-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Wolf

There's no amount of time that would have been "way too long." What you are telling us is that someone didn't want to do it.

I disagree, when you consider deadlines and time restraints that the developers have. Sure anything can be done if you have all the time in the world, but, unfortunately I don't think OOTP Dev. had all the time in the world.

The Wolf · 12-08-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by robster1225

I think 5.99 is definitely a fair price for OOTP2007 owners.

Right now, seeing SION everywhere I look in OOTP8, I am thinking that any price is too much for it, but that's probably way too colored by anger to be a fair overall appraisal, and you're probably right.

redsox45 · 12-08-2007, 01:53 PM

It isn't just removing SION, it's coming up with another name that isn't already trademarked. Not only that, but if OOTP8 is a bridge between OOTP2007 and OOTP9, it's fair to expect a transition from SI to OOTPD.

Will

DWK · 12-08-2007, 01:54 PM

Are you saying that we can use the Catobase with the new version?

The Wolf · 12-08-2007, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by robster1225

I disagree, when you consider deadlines and time restraints that the developers have. Sure anything can be done if you have all the time in the world, but, unfortunately I don't think OOTP Dev. had all the time in the world.

Me, showing that game screen to an experienced computer professional: "Is there any way that graphic could 'take to long to remove?'"

Experienced computer professional: "I can't see how."

The Wolf · 12-08-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by redsox45

It isn't just removing SION, it's coming up with another name that isn't already trademarked.

You don't need a trademark for blank space.

Raidergoo · 12-08-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DWK

Are you saying that we can use the Catobase with the new version?

Yes.

If you are a serious CATO user, I would consider picking this up in a heartbeat if they get the $6 offer straightened out.

Andreas Raht · 12-08-2007, 02:02 PM

"SION" is not only the graphics, it's in the text everywhere and in the code. We'll use another name in OOTP9 I guess. But I really absolutely don't understand why you bother about that abbreviation of a fictional "online network"?! It's called SION in OOTP8 because we wanted to fix some bugs instead of doing cosmetical stuff. I hope that's okay for you

ShaneCarson · 12-08-2007, 02:02 PM

Any timetable on the OS X release?

magnet · 12-08-2007, 02:06 PM

I definitely will NOT be buying OOTP 8, and am a little miffed that anyone who bought OOTP 2007 has to pay for a patch. A milestone tracker is not worth $5. Sorry.

Andreas Raht · 12-08-2007, 02:07 PM

@Wolf: The people at Sports Interactive are really great guys and I really like what they do. I don't understand why you name it "SI crap".

DWK · 12-08-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Andreas Raht

"SION" is not only the graphics, it's in the text everywhere and in the code. We'll use another name in OOTP9 I guess. But I really absolutely don't understand why you bother about that abbreviation of a fictional "online network"?! It's called SION in OOTP8 because we wanted to fix some bugs instead of doing cosmetical stuff. I hope that's okay for you

Nicely put

The Wolf · 12-08-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Andreas Raht

"SION" is not only the graphics, it's in the text everywhere and in the code.

Four words: global search and replace.

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Originally Posted by Andreas Raht

We'll use another name in OOTP9 I guess. But I really absolutely don't understand why you bother about that abbreviation of a fictional "online network"?!

Three words: suspension of disbelief. Plus, this may come as a shock to you, but there are some of us out here who are not fond of SI.

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Originally Posted by Andreas Raht

It's called SION in OOTP8 because we wanted to fix some bugs instead of doing cosmetical stuff.

I remain very disappointed that you did not do both.

Thanks for answering, though. Now at least I understand what happened and why and will bring it up no more.

Andreas Raht · 12-08-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaneCarson

Any timetable on the OS X release?

The OS X release will be early next week. I'm really sorry that we couldn't get it done at the same time. But to release both games at the same time we would have to wait with the PC release until next week, and would that make any sense?

The Wolf · 12-08-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Andreas Raht

@Wolf: The people at Sports Interactive are really great guys and I really like what they do. I don't understand why you name it "SI crap".

Andreas, one of the many meanings of crap is clutter. The use of the word was in no way intended as a shot at SI (even though I am not fond of SI).

Another way to put it would have been "SI clutter."

Andreas Raht · 12-08-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Wolf

Andreas, one of the many meanings of crap is clutter. The use of the word was in no way intended as a shot at SI (even though I am not fond of SI).

Another way to put it would have been "SI clutter."

Okay, thank you, I'm calming down again

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