What would get you to get OOTP9? - Page 6

Vinny P. · 01-05-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AirmenSmith

I'm easy to please. Just make it so relievers won't be put in as starters.

lol, Imma playing devil's advocate, but why not?

Relievers jump from staters and back to relievers all the time. Look at John Smoltz.

That is actually one of the subjects I wanted to talk about as well.

It would be nice if there were a way to make the transition from MR to SP a bit more....smoother....

Although the "Spot Starter" role is a good role to have for one pitcher. I DO have an MR that I have started for 7 games when I lost two of my starters. He was quite effective. That same person is also a very effective reliever as well. He has 78 IP, and the league average for starters this late in my season is about 110. He has a 3.38 ERA, is has a record of 5 - 0, with 7 GS, dunno how many G played, with 8 SVs, 2 BS, and like 12 SO. Has about 15 GF.

So OOTP DOES model pitching roles pretty well, I guess you just have to ferret out a pitcher like this yourself, and just use him however you want to use him in-game. (That is, if you play out every single one of your games this is very much possible.)

AirmenSmith · 01-05-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nihilianth

lol, Imma playing devil's advocate, but why not?

Relievers jump from staters and back to relievers all the time. Look at John Smoltz.

That is actually one of the subjects I wanted to talk about as well.

It would be nice if there were a way to make the transition from MR to SP a bit more....smoother....

Although the "Spot Starter" role is a good role to have for one pitcher. I DO have an MR that I have started for 7 games when I lost two of my starters. He was quite effective. That same person is also a very effective reliever as well. He has 78 IP, and the league average for starters this late in my season is about 110. He has a 3.38 ERA, is has a record of 5 - 0, with 7 GS, dunno how many G played, with 8 SVs, 2 BS, and like 12 SO. Has about 15 GF.

So OOTP DOES model pitching roles pretty well, I guess you just have to ferret out a pitcher like this yourself, and just use him however you want to use him in-game. (That is, if you play out every single one of your games this is very much possible.)

Oh I don't mind MRs and SPs going back and fourth I just wish if a guy is listed as a MR he stays that. See my biggest problem I come across in the game is that since I don't play out my games, I just sim, and once the game gets to about 2040 almost all the time I'll have a rotation full of guys with low endurance. Those guys endurance should put them as relievers not starters.

Vinny P. · 01-05-2009, 03:23 PM

oh, ok I see.

I think the game is better designed for people who play out their games, and can actually manage their players from inning to inning. You can control those types of things much easier, IMO.

AirmenSmith · 01-05-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nihilianth

oh, ok I see.

I think the game is better designed for people who play out their games, and can actually manage their players from inning to inning. You can control those types of things much easier, IMO.

Yeah the endurance system is for ppl that play out there games. The old endurance system, pre 2009, worked better for me. I guess the best compromise to this would be to have the force start option to work for pitchers to. Then at least the pitchers on my team would be correct.

Vinny P. · 01-05-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AirmenSmith

Yeah the endurance system is for ppl that play out there games. The old endurance system, pre 2009, worked better for me. I guess the best compromise to this would be to have the force start option to work for pitchers to. Then at least the pitchers on my team would be correct.

You mean pre-2007? lol.

AirmenSmith · 01-05-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nihilianth

You mean pre-2007? lol.

hehe what ever. Dang games going forward a year.

StyxNCa · 01-05-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AirmenSmith

Oh I don't mind MRs and SPs going back and fourth I just wish if a guy is listed as a MR he stays that. See my biggest problem I come across in the game is that since I don't play out my games, I just sim, and once the game gets to about 2040 almost all the time I'll have a rotation full of guys with low endurance. Those guys endurance should put them as relievers not starters.

I see times where if you have the AI set your rotation, it will put a MR in the rotation and put someone listed as a starter, even with higher endurance than the reliever, in the bullpen.....sometimes as a closer. What's with that?

StyxNCa · 01-05-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Zitofan75

Personally I'm glad he's no longer associated with SEGA.

I agree totally here. I wasn't overly enthused when SEGA got involved. I saw them wanting a different product than Markus and Markus losing some of the creative control.

AirmenSmith · 01-05-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by StyxNCa

I see times where if you have the AI set your rotation, it will put a MR in the rotation and put someone listed as a starter, even with higher endurance than the reliever, in the bullpen.....sometimes as a closer. What's with that?

Yeah to me it doesn't seem right. I think a temp fix would be to make the force start option work for pitchers but that doesn't fix the AI controlled teams.

Vinny P. · 01-05-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by StyxNCa

I agree totally here. I wasn't overly enthused when SEGA got involved. I saw them wanting a different product than Markus and Markus losing some of the creative control.

heh yeah, the problem with dealing with large corporations. They have no imagination whatsoever, just what the bottom line in their profits looks like.

I actually agree with you on osmething there Styx! Glad that Markus has nothing to do with SEGA anymore.

messenjah · 01-06-2009, 04:14 AM

WPA Graphs, Pitch f/x and/or graphics of the game being played. One of those three to make playing out the games more interesting.

Batted Ball statistics that matter. LD%, GB%, etc.

Deeper financials, especially when pertaining to International markets and Draft bonuses. I want to be able to spend my money on a player development pipeline, not on only being able to sign FA's.

Dr. P.R. Park III · 01-06-2009, 05:56 PM

Ability to purchase players.

Vinny P. · 01-06-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. P.R. Park III

Ability to purchase players.

What do you mean?

RchW · 01-13-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by StyxNCa

I agree totally here. I wasn't overly enthused when SEGA got involved. I saw them wanting a different product than Markus and Markus losing some of the creative control.

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Originally Posted by Nihilianth

heh yeah, the problem with dealing with large corporations. They have no imagination whatsoever, just what the bottom line in their profits looks like.

I actually agree with you on osmething there Styx! Glad that Markus has nothing to do with SEGA anymore.

While making no excuses for the cock up with v2006, the association with SI and their resources gave Markus a better platform for the game going forward. I don't think it's stretching too far to suggest that OOTPD may not have survived without that partnership.

The next 12-24 months will be critical. The bad economy has really killed discretionary spending. That plus losses in retirement savings even has me looking at a budget for the first time in a decade.

Vinny P. · 01-13-2009, 02:04 PM

Ah, yes. Point well-taken. I never truly thought about that. Although the risk of a large corporation high-jacking an awesome game and destroying it (Look at Sim City....) is pretty high.

Bears5122 · 01-25-2009, 09:29 AM

Catering more toward MLB style simmers. Being able to plug in an up-to-date roster and simulate it from here on out. The game has gone far away from that and lost a lot of customers who enjoyed playing the game that way. If they want to gain marketshare back, they need to target one of the biggest demographics.

01-05-2009, 03:23 PM	#103 (permalink)
Vinny P. All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Thanked 129x in 101 posts	oh, ok I see. I think the game is better designed for people who play out their games, and can actually manage their players from inning to inning. You can control those types of things much easier, IMO. __________________ Because I prefer it, and my vote counts +100 - Markus oh, and if you put it in OTD, well it just might get hijacked. It's just something you assume and accept. The gay marriage thread is currently about religion, gravity / theories on the creation of the universe, empiricism, and my little pony. - Prodigal Son Squirrels are pretty okay - kingcharlesxii Are you saying you have disagreed with someone on the internet and actually met them, so you could fight? - David Watts

01-13-2009, 02:04 PM	#115 (permalink)
Vinny P. All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Thanked 129x in 101 posts	Ah, yes. Point well-taken. I never truly thought about that. Although the risk of a large corporation high-jacking an awesome game and destroying it (Look at Sim City....) is pretty high. __________________ Because I prefer it, and my vote counts +100 - Markus oh, and if you put it in OTD, well it just might get hijacked. It's just something you assume and accept. The gay marriage thread is currently about religion, gravity / theories on the creation of the universe, empiricism, and my little pony. - Prodigal Son Squirrels are pretty okay - kingcharlesxii Are you saying you have disagreed with someone on the internet and actually met them, so you could fight? - David Watts

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messenjah All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Lakeside, MT Posts: 565	WPA Graphs, Pitch f/x and/or graphics of the game being played. One of those three to make playing out the games more interesting. Batted Ball statistics that matter. LD%, GB%, etc. Deeper financials, especially when pertaining to International markets and Draft bonuses. I want to be able to spend my money on a player development pipeline, not on only being able to sign FA's.

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Dr. P.R. Park III All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 718 Thanked 94x in 43 posts	Ability to purchase players.

01-25-2009, 09:29 AM	#116 (permalink)
Bears5122 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 721	Catering more toward MLB style simmers. Being able to plug in an up-to-date roster and simulate it from here on out. The game has gone far away from that and lost a lot of customers who enjoyed playing the game that way. If they want to gain marketshare back, they need to target one of the biggest demographics.