Home | Webstore
Latest News: OOTP 25 Available - FHM 10 Available - OOTP Go! Available

Out of the Park Baseball 25 Buy Now!

  

Go Back   OOTP Developments Forums > Prior Versions of Our Games > Earlier versions of Out of the Park Baseball > Earlier versions of OOTP: General Discussions
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Earlier versions of OOTP: General Discussions General chat about the game...

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-02-2008, 07:01 PM   #1
endgame
Hall Of Famer
 
endgame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 16,843
Personnel & Players Leaving Sign Same Day with AI

I know some of this is, at its core, is simply learning to develop good management skills. There are days when I lack them. I've brought this up in previous versions, but having it happen to me again today resurrected my desire to comment on it.

Very often, I'd say always if their value is at least average or above, when players are released or personnel's contracts aren't renewed and they leave, an AI team will sign them the same day. The result is I find out about it through the news or the transaction log, click on the player or personnel with interest, and find they've already signed on the dotted line elsewhere.

As I said, a good manager would have already provided for the personnel contracts to be extended if they were worth keeping (my fault), but when players aren't on the market long enough for me even to consider I feel a bit overlooked. Lots of ways to rationalize or fictionalize it, but my gut says I would have liked a chance, at least, to make an offer.
__________________
"Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett
_____________________________________________
endgame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2008, 08:12 PM   #2
1998 Yankees
Hall Of Famer
 
1998 Yankees's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Yankee Stadium, back in 1998.
Posts: 8,645
Quote:
Originally Posted by endgame View Post
I know some of this is, at its core, is simply learning to develop good management skills. There are days when I lack them. I've brought this up in previous versions, but having it happen to me again today resurrected my desire to comment on it.

Very often, I'd say always if their value is at least average or above, when players are released or personnel's contracts aren't renewed and they leave, an AI team will sign them the same day. The result is I find out about it through the news or the transaction log, click on the player or personnel with interest, and find they've already signed on the dotted line elsewhere.

As I said, a good manager would have already provided for the personnel contracts to be extended if they were worth keeping (my fault), but when players aren't on the market long enough for me even to consider I feel a bit overlooked. Lots of ways to rationalize or fictionalize it, but my gut says I would have liked a chance, at least, to make an offer.
Regarding personnel, I read someplace here that this is not always the case. Sometimes they get jobs right away, sometimes they are waiting for you in available personnel. Aside from the lesson to always extend good personnel in advance, as you point out, I look at it like this:

The guy naturally gets nervous and a little ticked as his contract nears its end and you have not even talked to him yet. So, he quietly makes some phone calls and has his options lined up in case you don't intend to renew him and takes an offer the moment he is released. If he's good enough to retain, he's good enough to get an offer or two from GM's who are not asleep at the switch (no offense intended ).

Last edited by 1998 Yankees; 01-02-2008 at 08:17 PM.
1998 Yankees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2008, 08:52 AM   #3
ctorg
Global Moderator
 
ctorg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 9,848
I'm not quite happy with the way personnel signing works. I play with scouts off and I would play with coaches off, but I like having manager records and tendencies. I just renew the whole coaching staff every year, pretty much. I never see any good ones in the pool.
__________________
My music

"When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright

Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils
ctorg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2008, 09:39 AM   #4
zukes
All Star Starter
 
zukes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: London, Ont. Canada
Posts: 1,105
To work around the personnel problem I went into Commissioner mode and kept creating coaches and scouts until there were enough good to excellent ones and then assigned them to all of the teams. I add a bunch each year to take into account retirements and guys who seem to forget how to do their job.
zukes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2008, 12:17 PM   #5
endgame
Hall Of Famer
 
endgame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 16,843
Quote:
Originally Posted by zukes View Post
To work around the personnel problem I went into Commissioner mode and kept creating coaches and scouts until there were enough good to excellent ones and then assigned them to all of the teams. I add a bunch each year to take into account retirements and guys who seem to forget how to do their job.
That's a good idea. Now that you brought this up, every other year or so I add (create) a few free agents - and, upon creation, it's not unusual for me to get the first opportunity to make an offer to them. Maybe I'll try that with personnel as well.
__________________
"Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett
_____________________________________________
endgame is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:59 AM.

 

Major League and Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of Major League Baseball. Visit MLB.com and MiLB.com.

Officially Licensed Product – MLB Players, Inc.

Out of the Park Baseball is a registered trademark of Out of the Park Developments GmbH & Co. KG

Google Play is a trademark of Google Inc.

Apple, iPhone, iPod touch and iPad are trademarks of Apple Inc., registered in the U.S. and other countries.

COPYRIGHT © 2023 OUT OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENTS. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

 

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright © 2020 Out of the Park Developments