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Old 01-02-2008, 08:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Personnel & Players Leaving Sign Same Day with AI

I know some of this is, at its core, is simply learning to develop good management skills. There are days when I lack them. I've brought this up in previous versions, but having it happen to me again today resurrected my desire to comment on it.

Very often, I'd say always if their value is at least average or above, when players are released or personnel's contracts aren't renewed and they leave, an AI team will sign them the same day. The result is I find out about it through the news or the transaction log, click on the player or personnel with interest, and find they've already signed on the dotted line elsewhere.

As I said, a good manager would have already provided for the personnel contracts to be extended if they were worth keeping (my fault), but when players aren't on the market long enough for me even to consider I feel a bit overlooked. Lots of ways to rationalize or fictionalize it, but my gut says I would have liked a chance, at least, to make an offer.
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Old 01-02-2008, 09:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I know some of this is, at its core, is simply learning to develop good management skills. There are days when I lack them. I've brought this up in previous versions, but having it happen to me again today resurrected my desire to comment on it.

Very often, I'd say always if their value is at least average or above, when players are released or personnel's contracts aren't renewed and they leave, an AI team will sign them the same day. The result is I find out about it through the news or the transaction log, click on the player or personnel with interest, and find they've already signed on the dotted line elsewhere.

As I said, a good manager would have already provided for the personnel contracts to be extended if they were worth keeping (my fault), but when players aren't on the market long enough for me even to consider I feel a bit overlooked. Lots of ways to rationalize or fictionalize it, but my gut says I would have liked a chance, at least, to make an offer.
Regarding personnel, I read someplace here that this is not always the case. Sometimes they get jobs right away, sometimes they are waiting for you in available personnel. Aside from the lesson to always extend good personnel in advance, as you point out, I look at it like this:

The guy naturally gets nervous and a little ticked as his contract nears its end and you have not even talked to him yet. So, he quietly makes some phone calls and has his options lined up in case you don't intend to renew him and takes an offer the moment he is released. If he's good enough to retain, he's good enough to get an offer or two from GM's who are not asleep at the switch (no offense intended ).

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Old 01-03-2008, 09:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm not quite happy with the way personnel signing works. I play with scouts off and I would play with coaches off, but I like having manager records and tendencies. I just renew the whole coaching staff every year, pretty much. I never see any good ones in the pool.
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To work around the personnel problem I went into Commissioner mode and kept creating coaches and scouts until there were enough good to excellent ones and then assigned them to all of the teams. I add a bunch each year to take into account retirements and guys who seem to forget how to do their job.
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To work around the personnel problem I went into Commissioner mode and kept creating coaches and scouts until there were enough good to excellent ones and then assigned them to all of the teams. I add a bunch each year to take into account retirements and guys who seem to forget how to do their job.
That's a good idea. Now that you brought this up, every other year or so I add (create) a few free agents - and, upon creation, it's not unusual for me to get the first opportunity to make an offer to them. Maybe I'll try that with personnel as well.
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