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Old 02-14-2008, 10:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Can't Hire Coaches or scout countries

I'm playing OOTP 8 (latest download, version 13 I believe and I'm using Windows Vista), and I can't offer contracts to personnel (coaches/scouts/doctors). I've tried right clicking and looking under the action tab...it's not listed under actions and right clicking gives me a blank green screen.

Also...I can't scout countries for some reason. No options are available to me...but, I do get lots of information about the countries and players.

I did a search...noticed I was playing in "as is" mode; I went to manager screen and signed on as GM of the Reds (received my email announcement); but still no luck in offering contracts or scouting. I am getting ratings and I can give tasks to my scouts who give me reports.

No doubt, there's a switch I've missed somewhere...any suggestions?

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Old 02-14-2008, 12:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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To scout a country, you must go through a particular scout's Tasklist screen (you can't do it from the Explore World screen). You can only choose to scout a country using the "scout if idle" task. "Scout Country" shows up in that dropdown only.

As far as not being able to offer contracts to other personnel, someone else smarter than me will be along shortly to help you out.
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I don't have a scout world option in my scout tasklist drop down box. I have leagues, teams, organizations, players, and opponents, but I don't have the country option.

Also...I can find coaches, scouts, et al, under the personnel search and shortlist, and I can short list them. But,there's no personnel listed under MLB "available personnel" screen, and I can't offer anyone contracts. I can short list, but can't offer contracts. The "extend offer" button does not show, and if I right click I get a blank green screen.
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I don't have a scout world option in my scout tasklist drop down box. I have leagues, teams, organizations, players, and opponents, but I don't have the country option.
And you're looking in the tasklist drop down ONLY in the "task if idle" category? If so, you probably have what the game calls "hidden talent" turned off. This "hidden talent" is the international players that appear occasionally when you assign a scout to scout a country. It's in league setup somewhere (don't remember exactly sorry). Unfortunately this setting can only be set upon league creation and cannot be turned off in an existing league.

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Also...I can find coaches, scouts, et al, under the personnel search and shortlist, and I can short list them. But,there's no personnel listed under MLB "available personnel" screen, and I can't offer anyone contracts. I can short list, but can't offer contracts. The "extend offer" button does not show, and if I right click I get a blank green screen.
Sounds to me like there most likely aren't actually any personnel available in your league. If you're looking at "search personnel" or whatever, I believe that includes people with jobs. So you're finding people you like that are already employed by other teams, which explains why you can't offer them contracts.
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Thank you for responding again.

I do have the "hidden talent" button off, and, indeed, I cannot click (it's faded). That explains not being able to scout the countries.

On the personnel issue....the search list for personnel does show currently employed personnel. It lists those personnel with their teams. However, there are many, many more personnel listed with dashes in the team category, which should indicate they are available.
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Old 02-15-2008, 01:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm out of ideas. You say that when you rightclick the coach's name, a green box comes up? I've never seen or heard of that before.

EDIT: Aha! Hiring coaches / managers
Is that it?

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I thought that was it, too, but it wasn't. I was in "as is" mode, but I turned off commissioner mode, had myself "officially' named GM (got my email press release), and I still can't make offers.

When I right click, I don't get a popup box....the coach's profile page disappears and it goes back to the search list...only all the information disappears (the blank screen...may be green due to the skin I'm using). I can click the "staff search" or the "staff shortlist" tab and all information returns.
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I'm stumped. Sorry.
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Thank you for trying.

Anybody have any suggestions?

One more piece of info....on my current coaches/scouts/doctors, the action drop down does include a button where I can offer extensions.

I went back to Commissioner Mode, hoping I could at least assign some staff to me, or create some staff....

For about a second (no more) I saw the "assign" button show on the action tab...by the time I moved my cursor to click on it, "assign" had disappeared...and I can't find any way to edit any of the available staff. The programs says I have 2009 persons to be found (including those already hired by other teams).
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When I right click, I don't get a popup box....the coach's profile page disappears and it goes back to the search list...only all the information disappears (the blank screen...may be green due to the skin I'm using). I can click the "staff search" or the "staff shortlist" tab and all information returns.
I can recreate this at least. See below, the first four screens. I don't know what else you are doing wrong, or what is wrong with your game, but right-clicking a player or personnel profile is the same as the Back button in a browser. For some reason, the available personnel or staff search screen is blank when you return to it.

Easy fix for that. Don't do it!

You should only right-click on names that appear in lists or articles. See the last screen print.

If I can think of anything else, I'll come back. For now, these silly suggestions:

Make sure that you have coaches activated (Global Setup, Use Complete Coaching System). Also, make sure your filters are cleared; go to Filter on the personnel list screens and select Clear Filter. Sometimes a custom filter is set and forgotten; the button will say None because the custom filter has not been named yet.

One more thing. If right-clicking the name does not give the expected option(s), try left-clicking the name, as you apparently did, and then left-clicking the Action button on the personnel page - see bottom of example below. Probably will be the same result one way or another, but it's worth a try.
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For about a second (no more) I saw the "assign" button show on the action tab...by the time I moved my cursor to click on it, "assign" had disappeared...and I can't find any way to edit any of the available staff. The programs says I have 2009 persons to be found (including those already hired by other teams).
By "assign" do you mean "Appoint as"? Because you cannot just assign a coach, scout, or doctor to a team directly from the staff search list or from the editor tab on a personnel page. Apparently, if you are the commissioner, you can "appoint" somebody up or down within the same organization if that person is employed already. What you may be seeing when you right-click on an un-employed person is that "appoint" option showing just momentarily until the game resets and eliminates it because the person does not belong to an organization within which he can be moved up and down.

So, orginally in this thread you could not make offers because you were not in charge of a team. You fixed that.

You found out the reason for not being able to scout nations; that's an option that is turned off from the beginning of your league and unfortunately cannot be turned on again in the same game.

Then I mentioned the possible reasons for the blank screens and the need to make sure the coaching module was on and filters were cleared.

I have a feeling that you are almost there, that you just have to click (right or left) the correct links at the correct times in order to get done what you are trying to do.
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Thank you for your suggestions.

I have had the complete coaching and scouting buttons selected; and the action button is what I'm missing on the coach's pages. I tried clicking on the names (left and right), and the offer contract button was not available.

I thought may be I didn't have the money available to hire someone....but, that wasn't it either...I have $13 million available.

I also checked the other teams, and they all have a full selection of coaches, scouts, and doctors....I finally began being hit hard with big time injuries.....trust me, guys, you need a staff doctor.

I checked my filters and no filters had been selected. "None" is the setting for all of them.

I appreciate your guys' help...I've been playing the game for many years and don't typically have problems. NO suggestion is a bad suggestion....I'm almost certain there's a switch somewhere I'm missing.
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I had a similar problem. I noticed my AA pitching coach's ratings had increased beyond my AAA pitching coach's. So I fired my AAA pitching coach and when I tried to appoint the AA coach as the AAA pitching coach, it only gave me the option to appoint him somewhere in AA (where he already was) or in the majors. Didn't give me the option to put him in AAA.

I'm also wondering if there's a way to swap coaches from one level to another. That's ideally what I would have liked to do, put the AAA coach in AA and vice versa. Is there a way to do this without having to fire one of them and take the contract hit?
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I have had the complete coaching and scouting buttons selected; and the action button is what I'm missing on the coach's pages. I tried clicking on the names (left and right), and the offer contract button was not available.

I thought may be I didn't have the money available to hire someone....but, that wasn't it either...I have $13 million available.

I also checked the other teams, and they all have a full selection of coaches, scouts, and doctors....I finally began being hit hard with big time injuries.....trust me, guys, you need a staff doctor.

I checked my filters and no filters had been selected. "None" is the setting for all of them.

I appreciate your guys' help...I've been playing the game for many years and don't typically have problems. NO suggestion is a bad suggestion....I'm almost certain there's a switch somewhere I'm missing.
It's frustrating. I can only offer you bits and pieces of information, but not the resolution.

First, I noticed (as a result of this thread ) that the Action button is available on a person's page only if you are the commissioner. Why, I don't know.

Second, when you right-click on a person in the staff search or available personnel lists, you get the option to offer a contract even if you have a full staff. You get the "No Jobs Available!" message at every level that you try, but you do see the Offer Contract window. You don't have to be the commissioner for that but you must be employed by an organization.

At this point, though, with nothing further to go on, I must quote the ever-wise wlight1:
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I had a similar problem. I noticed my AA pitching coach's ratings had increased beyond my AAA pitching coach's. So I fired my AAA pitching coach and when I tried to appoint the AA coach as the AAA pitching coach, it only gave me the option to appoint him somewhere in AA (where he already was) or in the majors. Didn't give me the option to put him in AAA.

I'm also wondering if there's a way to swap coaches from one level to another. That's ideally what I would have liked to do, put the AAA coach in AA and vice versa. Is there a way to do this without having to fire one of them and take the contract hit?
This is a different problem, damonrusst. It's just the way the game is designed for now. Personnel on the lower levels can only be reassigned within their team or to a position on the major league club. People on the ML level can be demoted to any level, however.

You don't have to fire anybody, as the person who was in the position trades places with the one you just reassigned.* So you have to play a bit of "musical chairs" to get somebody from AA to AAA, involving the guy at ML temporarily. A multi-move transaction that you may want to diagram with paper and pencil first.

*Caution: Avoid trying to trade places with an empty position. This crashes the game every time; it's a known bug that has been reported. Fill the empty position with the guy that you want to hire, then do your swapping.
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thanks, i'll give that a shot. Hope that option gets changed in future versions.
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I might be able to help.

I was having this same problem and didn't understand. It turned out I was going to the coaches from the wrong menu.

THE WRONG way was going to the MANAGER, Staff search and short list and right clicking. If you do this the APPOINT AS option does not appear. or will not let you sign them.

If you go to the bottom menu, and go to the manager HOME page. Then in the left column click search for coach or scout, then you can offer contracts.

Don't ask me why this happened to me, but maybe it will work for ya. Good Luck.

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THE WRONG way was going to the MANAGER, Staff search and short list and right clicking. If you do this the APPOINT AS option does not appear. or will not let you sign them.

If you go to the bottom menu, and go to the manager HOME page. Then in the left column click search for coach or scout, then you can offer contracts.
Both of those routes take you to the exact same list, so they should both behave in the exact same manner (they do here anyway).

That menu lists every coach/scout/doctor for every team in every league. For obvious reasons if you right-click on a coach that is already employed you won't be able to offer them a contract, nor will you get the "appoint as" option unless you are acting as commissioner or clicking on one of your own coaches.

The "Available Personnel" page under the league menu is the easiest place to go for hiring coaches.
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If you go to the bottom menu, and go to the manager HOME page. Then in the left column click search for coach or scout, then you can offer contracts.



Thank you, but still no luck. After searching the personnel, the action button did not include an offer tab. I right clicked on the person, and still no offer tab. I shortlisted the coach....still no offer tab.

Full coaching and scouting is activated, and not in commissioner mode....doctor's position is currently open which is whatr I am trying to fill.
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Thank you, but still no luck. After searching the personnel, the action button did not include an offer tab. I right clicked on the person, and still no offer tab. I shortlisted the coach....still no offer tab.
Dammit. I was hoping that would do it, although I was not able to reproduce the problem described by SeanH.

I don't ever use an offer tab, myself. When I sign personnel I go to the league dropdown (to the right of "Manager" on the top main menu tabs) and choose "Available Personnel" (first attached image). From there I sign them in one of two ways: Rightclick the coach's name from the list of personnel and choose "offer contract," (second attached image) or open the coach's person page (either by using "open person profile" after rightclicking the coach's name or by leftclicking the coach's name) and use the "action" drop-up menu at the bottom corner and there selecting "offer contract" (third attached image). I take it from your descriptions, Price, that you are able to find/use all of these menu selections, the "offer contract" option is just not displayed in any case?

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That is contract...."offer contract" is what I am missing for unemployed personnel.

On currently employed staff, "offer extension" is available....
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