Foreigner settings in OOTP 9

Markus Heinsohn · 06-10-2008, 10:58 AM

I spent some time tweaking the foreigner rules in OOTP 9, and the results look good:
First, you can now have the foreigner limits based on league or team nationality. Second, finally you can set a foreigner limit without specifying limits for hitters & pitchers. So when you have a foreigner limit of 6, you can have any combination of foreign hitters & pitchers if the total is not above 6. The AI handles this properly too. Third, the draft AI, especially the inaugural draft AI, handles these limits properly now, so setting up a truly international league is now a snap

cheers,
Markus

Cryomaniac · 06-10-2008, 11:05 AM

Cool, this makes my British league idea better.

Matt Uk · 06-10-2008, 11:05 AM

That's great news. Will be ideal for a European league

Just don't tell Sepp Blatter about this foreigner limit will you!

Cryomaniac · 06-10-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Uk

Just don't tell Sepp Blatter about this will you!

Haha. I actually think that foreigner limits would help in soccer. But then have been calling for free substitution in soccer for years.

Matt Uk · 06-10-2008, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

Haha. I actually think that foreigner limits would help in soccer. But then have been calling for free substitution in soccer for years.

Yeah but the Premier League would be awful then

The substitions would be a good idea though. Works fine in rugby after all.

Ambermonk · 06-10-2008, 11:40 AM

Thanks for the update. It is appreciated.

Tony M · 06-10-2008, 11:58 AM

Is this the halfway house to the suggestion I made?

If I was to put a 5 foreigner limit on the MLB, I could do it either a league or team level. So the Blue Jays would be limited to having no more than 5 non-Americans (if at a league level) or no more than 5 non-Canadians (if at a team level). Is there no foreigner limit option for nations in the league?

Or will that idea be looked at for OOTP10?

bababui · 06-10-2008, 12:04 PM

Now to implement that foreigner percentage on these boards. :rubshands:

southside_hitmen · 06-10-2008, 12:13 PM

International leagues here we come. With the ability to be based on team nationalities, should mean that Olympics and World Baseball Classic Tourneys should be doable now. Thanks Marcus!

RMc · 06-10-2008, 12:14 PM

First, you can now have the foreigner limits based on league or team nationality.

So, for instance, can I set up a Euro League with a foreigner limit of 5, but set individual teams at a lower number...say, the Berlin team would have a FL of 1, ensuring only one non-German playing for Berlin?

Who Killed Kenny? · 06-10-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by southside_hitmen

With the ability to be based on team nationalities, should mean that Olympics and World Baseball Classic Tourneys should be doable now. Thanks Marcus!

Not quite I think. There still is an issue with the inability for players to play both on their professional team and their national team. But its getting close!

Magc8Ball · 06-10-2008, 12:15 PM

This is excellent news. At the very least this will make it much easier to implement "academy" teams in various nations, making it more feasible for bringing in small amounts of players from various countries instead of just making a small league somewhere and setting their foreigner creation modifiers to, like, 95%).

southside_hitmen · 06-10-2008, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Who Killed Kenny?

Not quite I think. There still is an issue with the inability for players to play both on their professional team and their national team. But its getting close!

Yeah, almost. They need the ability to play internationally and on a winter league team, while still being owned by their professional team. Almost there though, definetly a step in the right direction!

Curtis · 06-10-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RMc

First, you can now have the foreigner limits based on league or team nationality.

So, for instance, can I set up a Euro League with a foreigner limit of 5, but set individual teams at a lower number...say, the Berlin team would have a FL of 1, ensuring only one non-German playing for Berlin?

Good question. In my 2006 game there is a China League. What would be ideal would be if I could allow foreigners on the six teams with the lowest revenue, but bar them from the two high revenue teams (which are the national and the under-22 teams).

koohead · 06-10-2008, 01:57 PM

curious if foreign limits are applied to reserved rosters as well? Believe this wasn't working correctly in OOTP8.

southside_hitmen · 06-10-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by koohead

curious if foreign limits are applied to reserved rosters as well? Believe this wasn't working correctly in OOTP8.

Second this question

Long_Long_Name · 06-10-2008, 02:53 PM

Are foreigner limits still low? I never understood why they were hard-coded so low (It can be anywhere between 0 and 10). It would be great if it were higher, especially for places where there are few players. Take, for example, MLB. The Blue Jays, under the current system, could never have a foreigner limit unless they want to have 15 Canadians on their roster. However, I think it could be a fun, and "realistic" idea, for example, to "force" the Blue Jays to have, say, a minimum of 3 Canadians on the team - in other words, a foreigner limit of 22. It's never been possible so far, is it now?

ootp3to6 · 06-10-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

I spent some time tweaking the foreigner rules in OOTP 9, and the results look good:
First, you can now have the foreigner limits based on league or team nationality. Second, finally you can set a foreigner limit without specifying limits for hitters & pitchers. So when you have a foreigner limit of 6, you can have any combination of foreign hitters & pitchers if the total is not above 6. The AI handles this properly too. Third, the draft AI, especially the inaugural draft AI, handles these limits properly now, so setting up a truly international league is now a snap

cheers,
Markus

Excellent

OakDragon · 06-10-2008, 03:03 PM

Way to go, Markus!!

kq76 · 06-10-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

Are foreigner limits still low? I never understood why they were hard-coded so low (It can be anywhere between 0 and 10). It would be great if it were higher, especially for places where there are few players. Take, for example, MLB. The Blue Jays, under the current system, could never have a foreigner limit unless they want to have 15 Canadians on their roster. However, I think it could be a fun, and "realistic" idea, for example, to "force" the Blue Jays to have, say, a minimum of 3 Canadians on the team - in other words, a foreigner limit of 22. It's never been possible so far, is it now?

I always wanted this too. Instead of a foreigner maximum, a domestic minimum. I suppose just allowing for pretty much any number up to the roster # would allow for the same though.

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Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 14,003 Thanks: 606 Thanked 7,113x in 1,336 posts	Foreigner settings in OOTP 9 I spent some time tweaking the foreigner rules in OOTP 9, and the results look good: First, you can now have the foreigner limits based on league or team nationality. Second, finally you can set a foreigner limit without specifying limits for hitters & pitchers. So when you have a foreigner limit of 6, you can have any combination of foreign hitters & pitchers if the total is not above 6. The AI handles this properly too. Third, the draft AI, especially the inaugural draft AI, handles these limits properly now, so setting up a truly international league is now a snap cheers, Markus

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Tony M Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Here Posts: 6,113 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 38 Thanked 309x in 179 posts	Is this the halfway house to the suggestion I made? If I was to put a 5 foreigner limit on the MLB, I could do it either a league or team level. So the Blue Jays would be limited to having no more than 5 non-Americans (if at a league level) or no more than 5 non-Canadians (if at a team level). Is there no foreigner limit option for nations in the league? Or will that idea be looked at for OOTP10? __________________ This signature is intentionally blank

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southside_hitmen Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 179 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	International leagues here we come. With the ability to be based on team nationalities, should mean that Olympics and World Baseball Classic Tourneys should be doable now. Thanks Marcus!

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RMc Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 492 Thanks: 15 Thanked 28x in 17 posts	First, you can now have the foreigner limits based on league or team nationality. So, for instance, can I set up a Euro League with a foreigner limit of 5, but set individual teams at a lower number...say, the Berlin team would have a FL of 1, ensuring only one non-German playing for Berlin? __________________ "We're all behind our baseball team..."

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Magc8Ball Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 73 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1x in 1 post	This is excellent news. At the very least this will make it much easier to implement "academy" teams in various nations, making it more feasible for bringing in small amounts of players from various countries instead of just making a small league somewhere and setting their foreigner creation modifiers to, like, 95%).

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koohead All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Litchfield Park, AZ Posts: 1,671 Thanks: 58 Thanked 30x in 19 posts	curious if foreign limits are applied to reserved rosters as well? Believe this wasn't working correctly in OOTP8. __________________ Mass Select feature in OOTP11! woot! GM - NC Clippers of the NPBL; 2001,2004,2007 FF Central Division Champs; 2001, 2004, 2007,2038 FFL Champions; 2004,2038 NPBL Champions

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Long_Long_Name Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 7,048 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Are foreigner limits still low? I never understood why they were hard-coded so low (It can be anywhere between 0 and 10). It would be great if it were higher, especially for places where there are few players. Take, for example, MLB. The Blue Jays, under the current system, could never have a foreigner limit unless they want to have 15 Canadians on their roster. However, I think it could be a fun, and "realistic" idea, for example, to "force" the Blue Jays to have, say, a minimum of 3 Canadians on the team - in other words, a foreigner limit of 22. It's never been possible so far, is it now? __________________ Beta Baseball. Join it!

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