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Markus, why would the AI release this player?
Hello Markus,
My question is why on earth would the AI release this calibre of player? In real life he is one of the top prospects in the game. In OOTP, he is dominating AA ball, was selected to the AA All-Star game, AND was the AA pitcher of the month in June. On July 11th, the Dodgers RELEASED him. How many times in real life would a team give up on a dominate 20 y/o LHP ????? |
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The real answer is that he is likely to take a big ratings hit soon; but for the sake of a dynasty, he could have been arrested for drugs or been involved in some other off the field nonsense.
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Joking aside, this is the type of issue that has always concerned me. While I know that there are real life examples that could be pointed to, I sill hope that this is looked at, and hopefully further refined/tweaked, etc...
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I think the bug fix that was anounced over at FOF will help solve some of this problem, if you have your game set up so that it looks at stats from this year at like 50% and ratings at a much lower number, and it works like Markus said in that posts then the AI won't be making these moves when a player takes a ratings drop that the human gm/commish can't see.
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Yes, which I take to mean that the AI (if your setting are close to what he has listed) will see this player as an 0.876 OPS, instead of a player who just took an small ratings bump, since it won't be looking at just ratings, since there was a bug in the old way it worked.
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Bobby Bowden must have a hell of a recruiting pitch, "Son if you come on down to Tallahasee, you just might be able to watch me die during practice!" The road was closed while the Hartford Police Department's bomb squad came and blew up the chicken. |
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Perhaps the Dodgers prefer submissives?
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What happens with the new AI if you set it to be stats-considering-only? I would think it would dump guys with good ratings who had crummy luck and therefore bad stats. Is that the case?
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LOL. I read "Probably drunk programmer" and had to do a double take.
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I think Markus' fixing of the player evaluation will be irrelevant in this case. Unless I am mistaken- there isn't any way for the evaluation (shown here)to consider potential. So,in fact, best case scenario- any evaluation will only take into account a player's current ratings and/or stats.....I don't know of any way to put a weight on the players future potential...So if a guy is currently 20/30/40 with potentials of 80/80/80- if he has a bad season- how can the AI evaluation factor in his future if the formula is based on stats and (current) ratings (of any combination)?.... I have seen many guys like Kershaw dumped- and it will continue to happen unless the AI's balance of when to give up on a player like this is better managed. In the above example- if Kershaw showed the same ratings as a 26 year old- maybe the release could be justified- but never at 20. |
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I have my AI Evaluation settings at: Ratings: 20 This Year's Stats: 45 Last Year's Stats: 25 Two Season's Ago: 10 I believe they are working fine in the AI roster evaluation. Perhaps others in the transactions dept will verify if they see this post. Either way, you'll find out in a little over a week. Last edited by SittingDuck; 06-11-2008 at 10:22 PM. |
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For some of the prospects I entered into the Lahman DB I just used a default of 5'10", 190lbs. I caught most of them after they were entered into the game, just not all of them (as with the case for Kershaw). |
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