Markus..2 issues - Page 2

Qrusher14242 · 06-11-2008, 03:38 PM

#1 is one of the things i miss about the old versions. You could correct your mistake in the old ones, especially with the area to drap it to so much smaller than the old one.

kckid4u · 06-11-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by StyxNCa

That's real nice. Glad you have no physical problems.

If you only knew.
The one thing I do still have though is a sense of humor.

Sdpm100 · 06-11-2008, 03:47 PM

Not fixing #1 would be fine if making substitutions was not as stupidly organised as it is now. You have to remember the exact order for each situation to make it work right, and even then the game will still catch you out and not change it in the way you expect so you end up with outfielders pitching, the "CF, RF" or similar, or my personal favourite "RF, RF" or the like. It's not really a good enough excuse to say "it's not worth the hassle" when it doesn't work right, IMO.

StyxNCa · 06-11-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kckid4u

If you only knew.
The one thing I do still have though is a sense of humor.

Sorry, but the tone of voice doesn't come across too well in forums, you know?

Bluenoser · 06-11-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by StyxNCa

Exiting the lineup screen back to the game screen would be like the player stepping foot in the batter box or in the field. The thing I am talking about is where I am in the dugout with pencil and lineup card making changes. The players involved have not left the dugout yet because I haven't decided to send them out yet. The game does not allow me to use the eraser on my pencil. Once I write the name on the card, that's it.

Whether the player puts a foot in the box, or even leaves the dugout matters not. Once you make a lineup change and announce it to the umpire, the player is considered to have entered the game.

Maybe what you mean is, you haven't announced the change yet?

MorseMoose · 06-11-2008, 04:33 PM

I guess I compare the screen to like the trade screen.

You have to click "submit trade to team." Just because you drop a guy into a trade doesn't mean that that is the trade. I can click on my team roster and not make any roster moves, why can't I drag a guy to a different position and then back out?

I obviously don't write code, but I don't see how hard it would be to have a "cancel"/revert back button. But that's why I don't write code or program

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karadur · 06-11-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

I guess I compare the screen to like the trade screen.

You have to click "submit trade to team." Just because you drop a guy into a trade doesn't mean that that is the trade. I can click on my team roster and not make any roster moves, why can't I drag a guy to a different position and then back out?

I obviously don't write code, but I don't see how hard it would be to have a "cancel"/revert back button. But that's why I don't write code or program

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Once you make a change for the player on your lineup card you can change him again, but in this case he didn't change again and the person who was penciled in to replace him 'finished' the game as the pitcher.

StyxNCa · 06-11-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceM

Whether the player puts a foot in the box, or even leaves the dugout matters not. Once you make a lineup change and announce it to the umpire, the player is considered to have entered the game.

Maybe what you mean is, you haven't announced the change yet?

In my opinion, the player doesn't get announced until you leave the lineup screen. At this point the change should be official, but as long as I'm in the lineup screen, the game is not progressing because I haven't returned to the "field".

You have seen players in the on-deck circle IRL, yet they have been called back when it was time for them to bat because they are not officially in the game until they are announced nor are they lost for the rest of the game.

I remember the Dodgers during the world series set their opponent up by putting some weak hitting batter in the on-deck circle which led the Oakland to intentionally walk the batter. At that point, Lasorda called the on deck batter back and sent Kirk Gibson up for his only at-bat of the series which ended off being a homerun. Lasorda talked about that incident on XM's baseball channel one day a while back.

Players are not announced while in the on-deck circle. They have to make it to the batter box or to a position in the field to be announced.

However, I am not even talking about going that far. I'm talking about the time at the lineup screen when decisions are made.

akw4572 · 06-11-2008, 05:13 PM

I think it's all a moot point. It would be nice to have a fix for any problems this might cause, but Markus said it would be a pretty big pain to code. Not a huge deal.

StyxNCa · 06-11-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by akw4572

I think it's all a moot point. It would be nice to have a fix for any problems this might cause, but Markus said it would be a pretty big pain to code. Not a huge deal.

Yup. It will get changed only when he starts running into dropping players into the wrong slot often enough.

Markus Heinsohn · 06-11-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by StyxNCa

Yup. It will get changed only when he starts running into dropping players into the wrong slot often enough.

Well, I never had that happen TBH.

But I see your point. The problem is that it really is a PITA to code...

StyxNCa · 06-11-2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Well, I never had that happen TBH.

But I see your point. The problem is that it really is a PITA to code...

Would it be easier to make the lineup slots larger?

Markus Heinsohn · 06-11-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by StyxNCa

Would it be easier to make the lineup slots larger?

Definitely!

StyxNCa · 06-11-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Definitely!

That would help me a lot.

Markus Heinsohn · 06-11-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by StyxNCa

That would help me a lot.

Please PM me, I'll fix it for you

Matt Uk · 06-11-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by endgame

That amounts to the same thing and actually, would be a little redundant given that the system remains once-moved-moved. Your substitution is the confirmation.

Not if the confirmation box said "Replace 2B John Smith with 1B Jim Jones?" and you'd see you'd dropped the player in the wrong slot.

I must admit I have rarely done this but did actually do it the other day when I went to put in a pinch runner and placed him in the at bat slot instead leaving my 1 speed guy on 2nd

My mistake, yes, but in the absence of being able to 'undo' the change (and if it's a pain to program for something that's not that big an issue then I agree it's not worth the effort) I just thought a confirmation pop up would be a work around.

kq76 · 06-11-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Ooops. What he said.

I'll add my

, though. You have to leave it up to him to make these kinds of calls. What the heck is the sense in questioning it when he's made such a decision? It's his game; buy it or not. StyxNCa has been persistent in asking this question, Markus finally answered, and StynNCa seemed OK with the response.

I think it's totally legit for people to press the issue asking for a simple explanation. It's not just a problem for one person and we've been hearing about it for quite awhile now. I'm sure I'd be pretty annoyed by it too if I played out a lot of games. If it really is too difficult to do right now, so be it, but like Comedian2004 said, it would be good for Markus to keep it in mind in case an easy way to fix it does come to mind.

1998 Yankees · 06-11-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MorseMoose

Whoa...fan boy much?

Nah. I pontificate in an even-handed manner, I believe.

1998 Yankees · 06-11-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kq76

I think it's totally legit for people to press the issue asking for a simple explanation.

Well, you have a point, considering this exchange:

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Originally Posted by StyxNCa

Would it be easier to make the lineup slots larger?

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Definitely!

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Originally Posted by StyxNCa

That would help me a lot.

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Please PM me, I'll fix it for you

That was beautiful. I'm teary-eyed, you know? All's well that ends well.

As for the rest of youse guys, he'll get to it when he gets to it, OK?

jabrown6940 · 06-11-2008, 10:05 PM

The larger lineup slots would be nice, especially in the bullpen. I'm forever accidentally losing the warmed up reliever when trying to put another pitcher in the pen.

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06-11-2008, 03:47 PM	#23 (permalink)
Sdpm100 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, England Posts: 7,634 Thanked 54x in 47 posts	Not fixing #1 would be fine if making substitutions was not as stupidly organised as it is now. You have to remember the exact order for each situation to make it work right, and even then the game will still catch you out and not change it in the way you expect so you end up with outfielders pitching, the "CF, RF" or similar, or my personal favourite "RF, RF" or the like. It's not really a good enough excuse to say "it's not worth the hassle" when it doesn't work right, IMO.

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akw4572 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,277 Thanked 29x in 22 posts	I think it's all a moot point. It would be nice to have a fix for any problems this might cause, but Markus said it would be a pretty big pain to code. Not a huge deal.

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jabrown6940 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2008 Location: 25 minute walk to Fenway Posts: 161 Thanked 5x in 2 posts	The larger lineup slots would be nice, especially in the bullpen. I'm forever accidentally losing the warmed up reliever when trying to put another pitcher in the pen.