Aarrghh, Vista!

OldFatGuy · 06-11-2008, 05:45 PM

Everywhere I've looked for a new laptop, they ALL come with Vista. Finally today I purchased one. SO, before I delve into the great unknown (and heretofore dreaded) Vista and OOTP8, can anyone give any pointers on what pitfalls to avoid or what precautions to take??? Secrets to installation?? Possible crashes to avoid??? I've never so much as gazed at a Vista screen.

ANY help is truly appreciated. I never really learned XP, now it's Vista.

Thanks again for any replies.

zekester91 · 06-11-2008, 05:48 PM

Run as admin the first time you open OOTP8, that's about the only thing that really changed between Vista and XP that I can think of.

pstrickert · 06-11-2008, 06:03 PM

FWIW, I've had zero problems running OOTP8 (or the OOTP9 beta) on Vista.

ashantewarrier · 06-11-2008, 06:18 PM

Yeah not much problems running OOTP8 with Vista for me. Now running Vista itself well...........

Kelric · 06-11-2008, 06:26 PM

Turn off the UAC.

ajsas01 · 06-11-2008, 06:33 PM

Just make sure your laptop has enough RAM

Vista is a beast

kq76 · 06-11-2008, 07:36 PM

IMO, people totally overexaggerate the issues with Vista. Yeah, you want a good amount of memory, but while 2 would be nice I only have 1GB and it's alright. Yeah, you'll probably want to turn off UAC, but if you can resist then it probably is best to leave it on. Yeah, you need to run things as admin first sometimes, but once you know to try that you're good. Issues with programs not working with Vista are pretty non-existent now and even when Vista first came out I only had 1 program not work with it. And getting used to OOTP8 from OOTP6 takes a whole lot longer than getting used to Vista from XP. I quite like Vista, you just need a modern computer to run it.

The Wolf · 06-11-2008, 08:15 PM

Turn off the UAC and the associated notifications that go with it and Vista will suddenly look better to you. Still way ugly, of course, but better.

Cooleyvol · 06-11-2008, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelric

Turn off the UAC.

''

After doing this, Vista is basically just like XP to me.

jarmenia · 06-11-2008, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

Everywhere I've looked for a new laptop, they ALL come with Vista. Finally today I purchased one. SO, before I delve into the great unknown (and heretofore dreaded) Vista and OOTP8, can anyone give any pointers on what pitfalls to avoid or what precautions to take??? Secrets to installation?? Possible crashes to avoid??? I've never so much as gazed at a Vista screen.

ANY help is truly appreciated. I never really learned XP, now it's Vista.

Thanks again for any replies.

Format the drive and install Linux...

bababui · 06-11-2008, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelric

Turn off the UAC.

Also, to make folders more familiar and accessible, you might want to do this. Files look like this on Vista. But they can be changed to folders by clicking on views...

bababui · 06-11-2008, 09:24 PM

and...

bababui · 06-11-2008, 09:26 PM

And this for me is easier to deal with.

OldFatGuy · 06-11-2008, 10:17 PM

Thanks everybody. All of this is very helpful. Well, most of this is very helpful. Ok so a good part of them is very helpful. I'm not gonna format the drive and load linux, and maybe those posts from that baby eating dude aren't likely to be followed, but everything else is a big help.

Thanks again.

1998 Yankees · 06-11-2008, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

maybe those posts from that baby eating dude aren't likely to be followed

Ha, ha! My laptop is shaking on top of my belly. Never trust a "baby eating dude"!!! LOL again (hold on to the laptop, stupid . . . do you want to end up with Vista like OFG?).

fantom1979 · 06-11-2008, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelric

Turn off the UAC.

excellent advice, I did this right after i got vista, makes everything easier

Exodor · 06-11-2008, 11:33 PM

I recently upgraded to Vista.

Since the upgrade OOTP8 has not crashed once. On XP i'd get a "This program has to be closed" type of errror a few times a week.

I'd say Vista is an improvement.

OldFatGuy · 06-12-2008, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pstrickert

FWIW, I've had zero problems running OOTP8 (or the OOTP9 beta) on Vista.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashantewarrier

Yeah not much problems running OOTP8 with Vista for me. Now running Vista itself well...........

Thanks, good to know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zekester91

Run as admin the first time you open OOTP8, that's about the only thing that really changed between Vista and XP that I can think of.

Well, I've been experimenting some tonight and haven't yet figured out how to run as admin, but I suspect I will and will heed your advice. Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelric

Turn off the UAC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Turn off the UAC and the associated notifications that go with it and Vista will suddenly look better to you. Still way ugly, of course, but better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

''
After doing this, Vista is basically just like XP to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fantom1979

excellent advice, I did this right after i got vista, makes everything easier

Thanks guys. Now do you LEAVE it off at all times?? Just wondering about the security thing. I don't do a lot of surfing, don't do a lot of downloads, so I'm thinking I'm ok with leaving it off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajsas01

Just make sure your laptop has enough RAM

Vista is a beast

Just checked and mine has 3GB. Is this good, or at least sufficient??

Quote:

Originally Posted by kq76

IMO, people totally overexaggerate the issues with Vista. Yeah, you want a good amount of memory, but while 2 would be nice I only have 1GB and it's alright. Yeah, you'll probably want to turn off UAC, but if you can resist then it probably is best to leave it on. Yeah, you need to run things as admin first sometimes, but once you know to try that you're good. Issues with programs not working with Vista are pretty non-existent now and even when Vista first came out I only had 1 program not work with it. And getting used to OOTP8 from OOTP6 takes a whole lot longer than getting used to Vista from XP. I quite like Vista, you just need a modern computer to run it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exodor

I recently upgraded to Vista.

Since the upgrade OOTP8 has not crashed once. On XP i'd get a "This program has to be closed" type of errror a few times a week.

I'd say Vista is an improvement.

These are refreshing. Feeling better about Vista. A little. Thanks for into. Anything new is hard, and its even harder with age. You know, teach an old dog new tricks thing.

Thank you ALL very much for replying. Got a laugh out the ones meant to draw one, and that helped too. Thanks again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Ha, ha! My laptop is shaking on top of my belly. Never trust a "baby eating dude"!!! LOL again (hold on to the laptop, stupid . . . do you want to end up with Vista like OFG?).

Careful, don't drop that thing. If its running XP, its precious. Check any store if you don't believe me. And you're right, never trust a baby eating dude.

Giants44 · 06-12-2008, 02:11 AM

once I chose run OOTP as admin I have had zero-OOTP-Vista issues.

and I do agree much of the ballyhoo about Vista is overrated. Yes, it hangs some times and has some compatibility issues - but so does XP.

I think there is some similaritlies between the XP-Vista conversion to the OOTP 6.5-SI Modeled Versions.

The difference is the SI Modeled Versions of OOTP actually have some great advantages over 6.5. I have been running Vista for a year now and outside of a few very minor things I don't see any advantages over XP and this includes Vista SP1.

I only stay with Vista because of my need to use it everyday in order to properly support it.

One final not if you really wanted an XP laptop Dell is selling them through next thursday - final day for any XP throguh Dell is 6/18

Kelric · 06-12-2008, 02:21 AM

I turned the UAC off sometime in my first 24 hours of use of Vista and haven't bothered turning it back on. Vista really is pretty much the same as XP aside from taking more resources and a slightly different way of organizing a few folders.

06-11-2008, 05:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
OldFatGuy All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern Va., Loudoun County Posts: 1,321 Thanked 61x in 41 posts	Aarrghh, Vista! Everywhere I've looked for a new laptop, they ALL come with Vista. Finally today I purchased one. SO, before I delve into the great unknown (and heretofore dreaded) Vista and OOTP8, can anyone give any pointers on what pitfalls to avoid or what precautions to take??? Secrets to installation?? Possible crashes to avoid??? I've never so much as gazed at a Vista screen. ANY help is truly appreciated. I never really learned XP, now it's Vista. Thanks again for any replies.

06-11-2008, 05:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
zekester91 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,122 Thanked 1x in 1 post	Run as admin the first time you open OOTP8, that's about the only thing that really changed between Vista and XP that I can think of. __________________ Bobby Bowden must have a hell of a recruiting pitch, "Son if you come on down to Tallahasee, you just might be able to watch me die during practice!" The road was closed while the Hartford Police Department's bomb squad came and blew up the chicken.

06-11-2008, 06:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
ashantewarrier All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somerset, NJ via Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,463 Thanked 152x in 96 posts	Yeah not much problems running OOTP8 with Vista for me. Now running Vista itself well........... __________________ "I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being." -Jackie Robinson, #42 Brooklyn Dodgers *"Hitting is better than sex."* - Reggie Jackson OOTP MLB & NCAA Caps & Jerseys http://s1232.photobucket.com/profile/ashantewarrier

06-11-2008, 06:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,982 Thanked 46x in 36 posts	Turn off the UAC. __________________ Former Co-Commish and owner of the Boston Red Sox, 1783-1144, .609%, of the defunct Overlords Baseball League (1930-48). 17 Division wins, 9 ALCS wins, 5 World Series wins.

06-11-2008, 07:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 7,527 Thanked 303x in 166 posts	IMO, people totally overexaggerate the issues with Vista. Yeah, you want a good amount of memory, but while 2 would be nice I only have 1GB and it's alright. Yeah, you'll probably want to turn off UAC, but if you can resist then it probably is best to leave it on. Yeah, you need to run things as admin first sometimes, but once you know to try that you're good. Issues with programs not working with Vista are pretty non-existent now and even when Vista first came out I only had 1 program not work with it. And getting used to OOTP8 from OOTP6 takes a whole lot longer than getting used to Vista from XP. I quite like Vista, you just need a modern computer to run it. __________________ Useful Links: Manuals \| Downloads \| Newsletters \| Knowledge Base \| New Tech Support \| Updated Forum Rules Interactive Online League Directory - find or advertise a league today! Canadian Baseball League - uses OOTP11, running steadily since April 2002

06-11-2008, 06:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,499 Thanked 297x in 160 posts	FWIW, I've had zero problems running OOTP8 (or the OOTP9 beta) on Vista.

06-11-2008, 06:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
ajsas01 Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Saline, MI Posts: 389 Thanked 18x in 4 posts	Just make sure your laptop has enough RAM Vista is a beast

06-11-2008, 10:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
OldFatGuy All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern Va., Loudoun County Posts: 1,321 Thanked 61x in 41 posts	Thanks everybody. All of this is very helpful. Well, most of this is very helpful. Ok so a good part of them is very helpful. I'm not gonna format the drive and load linux, and maybe those posts from that baby eating dude aren't likely to be followed, but everything else is a big help. Thanks again.

06-11-2008, 11:33 PM	#17 (permalink)
Exodor Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 424 Thanked 11x in 8 posts	I recently upgraded to Vista. Since the upgrade OOTP8 has not crashed once. On XP i'd get a "This program has to be closed" type of errror a few times a week. I'd say Vista is an improvement.

06-12-2008, 02:11 AM	#19 (permalink)
Giants44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,032 Thanked 44x in 23 posts	once I chose run OOTP as admin I have had zero-OOTP-Vista issues. and I do agree much of the ballyhoo about Vista is overrated. Yes, it hangs some times and has some compatibility issues - but so does XP. I think there is some similaritlies between the XP-Vista conversion to the OOTP 6.5-SI Modeled Versions. The difference is the SI Modeled Versions of OOTP actually have some great advantages over 6.5. I have been running Vista for a year now and outside of a few very minor things I don't see any advantages over XP and this includes Vista SP1. I only stay with Vista because of my need to use it everyday in order to properly support it. One final not if you really wanted an XP laptop Dell is selling them through next thursday - final day for any XP throguh Dell is 6/18 __________________ "In a text sim - Immersion is everything" -Me "Judge a man not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character" -Martin Luther King "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." -Einstein "The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." -Muhammad Ali "Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." -Toby Harrah

06-12-2008, 02:21 AM	#20 (permalink)
Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,982 Thanked 46x in 36 posts	I turned the UAC off sometime in my first 24 hours of use of Vista and haven't bothered turning it back on. Vista really is pretty much the same as XP aside from taking more resources and a slightly different way of organizing a few folders. __________________ Former Co-Commish and owner of the Boston Red Sox, 1783-1144, .609%, of the defunct Overlords Baseball League (1930-48). 17 Division wins, 9 ALCS wins, 5 World Series wins.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode