NEWS/PBP TYPOS AND ERRORS THREAD: Post Them In This Thread - Page 15

Eugene Church · 08-08-2008, 02:33 PM

I'm up to date on this thread.

ACM14850 · 08-09-2008, 01:39 AM

Situation: runners on first and second, no outs, batter swings and misses at an 0-2 pitch. Play-by-play shows the catcher tagging the batter for the out.

The tag, however, is not necessary. According to Rule 6.05(c), "a batter is out when a third strike is not caught by the catcher when first base is occupied before two are out". The catcher does not need to tag the batter, or throw the ball to first base, in this instance.

This is probably not an error in the play-by-play text, rather an implementation of an incorrect interpretation of the rule.

Vinny P. · 08-09-2008, 01:56 AM

How do you know the catcher caught the ball? It says the ball was in the dirt, and that the catcher "scooped" it. Does that mean he caught the ball near the ground, or did it bounce in the dirt first?

Eugene Church · 08-09-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ACM14850

Situation: runners on first and second, no outs, batter swings and misses at an 0-2 pitch. Play-by-play shows the catcher tagging the batter for the out.

The tag, however, is not necessary. According to Rule 6.05(c), "a batter is out when a third strike is not caught by the catcher when first base is occupied before two are out". The catcher does not need to tag the batter, or throw the ball to first base, in this instance.

This is probably not an error in the play-by-play text, rather an implementation of an incorrect interpretation of the rule.

I will post it in Bugzilla.

Eugene Church · 08-09-2008, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nihilianth

How do you know the catcher caught the ball? It says the ball was in the dirt, and that the catcher "scooped" it. Does that mean he caught the ball near the ground, or did it bounce in the dirt first?

Is it a catch, if the ball hit the ground and the catcher catches it on a bounce?

ACM14850 · 08-09-2008, 02:58 PM

Rule 6.05(b): "A batter is out when a third strike is legally caught by the catcher."

Rule 6.05(b) Comment: “Legally caught” means in the catcher’s glove before the ball touches the ground. It is not legal if the ball lodges in his clothing or paraphernalia; or if it touches the umpire and is caught by the catcher on the rebound.
If a foul-tip first strikes the catcher’s glove and then goes on through and is caught by both hands against his body or protector, before the ball touches the ground, it is a strike, and if third strike, batter is out. If smothered against his body or protector, it is a catch provided the ball struck the catcher’s glove or hand first.

Vinny P. · 08-09-2008, 04:44 PM

hhmmm, your batter swings and misses, and my interpretation from the text is that the ball hits the ground without even being tipped by the batter. In which case, it would be almost a wild pitch at the same. Which means the batter would have the right to go.

I know IRL, sometimes the catcher would just tag the batter if it is at all questionable by the catcher whether the batter has the right to go. He does that "just in case." It has happened to me a few times, where the catch would tag me, but I was not heading anywhere, but back to the bench.

ACM14850 · 08-09-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nihilianth

hhmmm, your batter swings and misses, and my interpretation from the text is that the ball hits the ground without even being tipped by the batter. In which case, it would be almost a wild pitch at the same. Which means the batter would have the right to go.

How you can conclude exactly the opposite of what the rules says, I have no idea.

The batter swung and missed at a third strike. First base was occupied. There were less than two out. Whether the catcher caught the ball or not is irrelevant. If the catcher caught the ball, the batter is out by rule 6.05(b): "A batter is out when a third strike is legally caught by the catcher." If the catcher didn't catch the ball, the batter is still out, by rule
6.05(c), "A batter is out when a third strike is not caught by the catcher when first base is occupied before two are out". In either event, the batter is out, and there is no need for the catcher to tag the batter in order to put him out.

Vinny P. · 08-09-2008, 10:27 PM

OOHH, my fault, I thought first base was open.

Eugene Church · 08-10-2008, 12:57 AM

This is just a note to me, so I know I am up to date on this thread.

SittingDuck · 08-11-2008, 04:42 PM

EC, not a typo, but when a team clinches it's division or league, shouldn't they receive a news memo? Seems appropriate.

Eugene Church · 08-11-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SittingDuck

EC, not a typo, but when a team clinches it's division or league, shouldn't they receive a news memo? Seems appropriate.

Yes, that would be nice.

But first, Markus has to program it in the game.

Currently, all we get is a League Champions story, giving the score of the deciding game, how many titles the team has won and how they finished in the division with their position and season record.

There is a news story about the Playoffs beginning with a schedule of matchups in the opening round.

It has been requested that Markus cover the post-season in more detail and give a news story on each playoff game.

Maybe in OOTP10, if we are lucky.

SittingDuck · 08-11-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Eugene Church

It has been requested that Markus cover the post-season in more detail and give a news story on each playoff game.

Maybe in OOTP10, if we are lucky.

Cripes, I had just come back here to mention this. During playoffs, IMO, it should be strictly playoff coverage without the trade rumor stuff. One game, one article.

There is also not enough pre-playoff build-up.

I really hope he'll get on that.

Otherwise, good deal.

Eugene Church · 08-12-2008, 12:28 AM

I'm up-to-date.

This is a note to myself.

Buhner4 · 08-12-2008, 03:56 AM

Unsure of where to put this, but i think here qualifies. It requires set up, and i have no screen shot because i didnt think ok it.

My starting pitcher has a shutout with 2 outs in the 9th. There are runners on 1st and 3rd. The batter hits a single up the middle and the runner from third scores. The runner on 1st gets throw out at 3rd. The PbP announces that the pitcher has thrown a shutout giving up so many hits etc etc.

After the game, when i realized what the PbP had said, i checked all the stats. All were correct for both teams (with the pitcher giving up a run and an rbi for the hitter and a run for the man on 3rd). Which is why i figured it should be posted here.

Sorry for no Screen shot. And if this is in the wrong place.

Eugene Church · 08-12-2008, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buhner4

Unsure of where to put this, but i think here qualifies. It requires set up, and i have no screen shot because i didnt think ok it.

My starting pitcher has a shutout with 2 outs in the 9th. There are runners on 1st and 3rd. The batter hits a single up the middle and the runner from third scores. The runner on 1st gets throw out at 3rd. The PbP announces that the pitcher has thrown a shutout giving up so many hits etc etc.

After the game, when i realized what the PbP had said, i checked all the stats. All were correct for both teams (with the pitcher giving up a run and an rbi for the hitter and a run for the man on 3rd). Which is why i figured it should be posted here.

Sorry for no Screen shot. And if this is in the wrong place.

You are in the right place.

Even if it was in the wrong place, I always appreciate someone who takes the time to make the game better.

I think this problem is in the Hard-Coded PBP, to which only Markus has access. I will report it as a bug.

Thanks for posting it.

Raidergoo · 08-13-2008, 10:18 PM

I saw territory misspelled as terrotory in the PbP.

Eugene Church · 08-14-2008, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

I saw territory misspelled as terrotory in the PbP.

Thanks.

I did a search for it and it did not show up.

Looks like tysok or pstrickert fixed it.

Bishop · 08-15-2008, 11:29 AM

Hall of Fame message..

"After the induction ceremony Dundee was asked what was the most thrilling moment in his career. He responded quickly, "No doubt about it, your first hit in the big leagues Â—- that's tops. It means you're on your way. When you get the first hit, then you can get the rest.""

In the game, it shows up as A a box then a dash.

Eugene Church · 08-15-2008, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bishop

Hall of Fame message..

"After the induction ceremony Dundee was asked what was the most thrilling moment in his career. He responded quickly, "No doubt about it, your first hit in the big leagues Â—- that's tops. It means you're on your way. When you get the first hit, then you can get the rest.""

In the game, it shows up as A a box then a dash.

Thanks for posting the error.

The text database story was alright. I guess in the conversion, the use of "--" was not acceptable.

I took it out and just made it two sentences.

It now reads:

"No doubt about it, your first hit in the big leagues. That's tops. It means you're on your way. When you get the first hit, then you can get the rest."

08-09-2008, 01:39 AM	#282 (permalink)
ACM14850 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Situation: runners on first and second, no outs, batter swings and misses at an 0-2 pitch. Play-by-play shows the catcher tagging the batter for the out. The tag, however, is not necessary. According to Rule 6.05(c), "a batter is out when a third strike is not caught by the catcher when first base is occupied before two are out". The catcher does not need to tag the batter, or throw the ball to first base, in this instance. This is probably not an error in the play-by-play text, rather an implementation of an incorrect interpretation of the rule. Attached Images

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08-08-2008, 02:33 PM	#281 (permalink)
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 17,549 Thanks: 140 Thanked 133x in 72 posts	I'm up to date on this thread.

08-09-2008, 01:56 AM	#283 (permalink)
Vinny P. Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,518 Thanks: 289 Thanked 130x in 102 posts Infractions: 0/1 (4)	How do you know the catcher caught the ball? It says the ball was in the dirt, and that the catcher "scooped" it. Does that mean he caught the ball near the ground, or did it bounce in the dirt first?

08-09-2008, 02:58 PM	#286 (permalink)
ACM14850 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Rule 6.05(b): "A batter is out when a third strike is legally caught by the catcher." Rule 6.05(b) Comment: “Legally caught” means in the catcher’s glove before the ball touches the ground. It is not legal if the ball lodges in his clothing or paraphernalia; or if it touches the umpire and is caught by the catcher on the rebound. If a foul-tip first strikes the catcher’s glove and then goes on through and is caught by both hands against his body or protector, before the ball touches the ground, it is a strike, and if third strike, batter is out. If smothered against his body or protector, it is a catch provided the ball struck the catcher’s glove or hand first.

08-09-2008, 04:44 PM	#287 (permalink)
Vinny P. Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,518 Thanks: 289 Thanked 130x in 102 posts Infractions: 0/1 (4)	hhmmm, your batter swings and misses, and my interpretation from the text is that the ball hits the ground without even being tipped by the batter. In which case, it would be almost a wild pitch at the same. Which means the batter would have the right to go. I know IRL, sometimes the catcher would just tag the batter if it is at all questionable by the catcher whether the batter has the right to go. He does that "just in case." It has happened to me a few times, where the catch would tag me, but I was not heading anywhere, but back to the bench.

08-09-2008, 10:27 PM	#289 (permalink)
Vinny P. Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,518 Thanks: 289 Thanked 130x in 102 posts Infractions: 0/1 (4)	OOHH, my fault, I thought first base was open.

08-10-2008, 12:57 AM	#290 (permalink)
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 17,549 Thanks: 140 Thanked 133x in 72 posts	This is just a note to me, so I know I am up to date on this thread.

08-11-2008, 04:42 PM	#291 (permalink)
SittingDuck All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,834 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	EC, not a typo, but when a team clinches it's division or league, shouldn't they receive a news memo? Seems appropriate.

08-12-2008, 12:28 AM	#294 (permalink)
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 17,549 Thanks: 140 Thanked 133x in 72 posts	I'm up-to-date. This is a note to myself.

08-12-2008, 03:56 AM	#295 (permalink)
Buhner4 Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Unsure of where to put this, but i think here qualifies. It requires set up, and i have no screen shot because i didnt think ok it. My starting pitcher has a shutout with 2 outs in the 9th. There are runners on 1st and 3rd. The batter hits a single up the middle and the runner from third scores. The runner on 1st gets throw out at 3rd. The PbP announces that the pitcher has thrown a shutout giving up so many hits etc etc. After the game, when i realized what the PbP had said, i checked all the stats. All were correct for both teams (with the pitcher giving up a run and an rbi for the hitter and a run for the man on 3rd). Which is why i figured it should be posted here. Sorry for no Screen shot. And if this is in the wrong place.

08-13-2008, 10:18 PM	#297 (permalink)
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,495 Thanks: 136 Thanked 157x in 85 posts	I saw territory misspelled as terrotory in the PbP.

08-15-2008, 11:29 AM	#299 (permalink)
Bishop All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tejas Posts: 707 Thanks: 16 Thanked 27x in 12 posts	Hall of Fame message.. "After the induction ceremony Dundee was asked what was the most thrilling moment in his career. He responded quickly, "No doubt about it, your first hit in the big leagues Â—- that's tops. It means you're on your way. When you get the first hit, then you can get the rest."" In the game, it shows up as A a box then a dash.