Independent Leagues: MLB Teams purchasing contracts

wildcat000 · 06-24-2008, 01:07 AM

I have a question/suggestion. I play with a lot of Indy leagues (ex. Frontier League, Golden League, Northern League, etc.) and the whole purpose of those leagues is to get players back into affiliated ball. Is there any way to allow MLB teams to purchase the "contracts" (ie players) from Independent teams and put them in a farm team? If not I guess this is a suggestion.

It would add great realism and a whole bunch of depth for both MLB leagues and Indy leagues. I think it would be a great little addition if possible.

Dr. P.R. Park III · 06-24-2008, 01:15 AM

Been there, done that. This kind of feature will most likely never see the light of day. Sorry friend.

Le Grande Orange · 06-24-2008, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. P.R. Park III

Been there, done that. This kind of feature will most likely never see the light of day. Sorry friend.

Not if I have anything to say about it.

A proper reworking of the financial system in OOTP, and the selling of players becomes possible — indeed, it is a requirement if one is to properly recreate the evolution of the major-minor relationship.

Dr. P.R. Park III · 06-24-2008, 01:35 AM

Well, my thoughts with you friend, and best of luck!

attackemu · 06-24-2008, 01:38 AM

Well, besides the benefit to historical players being able to accurately play minor leagues of the early 20th century, it would also be useful for modern-day players to have a proper system set up for Japanese imports.

Dr. P.R. Park III · 06-24-2008, 01:53 AM

That whole process requires a whole new element. It's more of a bidding process, then purchasing of a contract. With the purchase of independent contracts, without knowing details, I'm sure it's a lot simpler.

attackemu · 06-24-2008, 01:56 AM

Same basic concept though. Team A offers money to Team B for Player X. Team B takes or doesn't take the offer.

wildcat000 · 06-24-2008, 01:59 AM

It is as simple as that. In fact, in Independent leagues, it's a first come first serve basis. It's not like the Dice-K saga, where multiple teams bid, an Indy team will sell to the first bidder. The idea is to get a player signed, not paid.

Le Grande Orange · 06-24-2008, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. P.R. Park III

That whole process requires a whole new element. It's more of a bidding process, then purchasing of a contract. With the purchase of independent contracts, without knowing details, I'm sure it's a lot simpler.

Well, something like that is needed anyway to recreate the way signing amateur players worked before the draft was instituted. The signing bonus "wars" were a rather fundamental aspect of MLB's history (and what led to the amateur draft).

Dr. P.R. Park III · 06-24-2008, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wildcat000

It is as simple as that. In fact, in Independent leagues, it's a first come first serve basis. It's not like the Dice-K saga, where multiple teams bid, an Indy team will sell to the first bidder. The idea is to get a player signed, not paid.

This is true, but probably 90% of the time, there is only one bidder. I agree though, this needs to be implemented, it's long overdue.

wildcat000 · 06-24-2008, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. P.R. Park III

This is true, but probably 90% of the time, there is only one bidder. I agree though, this needs to be implemented, it's long overdue.

I actually work for a Frontier League team, and from my four years there, I've never seen more than one team ask for a guy. I have seen a couple guys get tryouts/worked out for multiple teams, but like I said, it's first come first serve. The most famous Frontier League alumns are Brendan Donnelly, Cardinals Josh Kinney (pitched in the World Series), and current #2 AL Saves leader, Orioles closer George Sherrill.

Dr. P.R. Park III · 06-24-2008, 03:03 AM

How exactly does it work? How much does a purchase usually go for?

wildcat000 · 06-24-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. P.R. Park III

How exactly does it work? How much does a purchase usually go for?

Typically not much. We had a guy be MVP of our All-Star game, and get signed by the Padres for next to nothing, a few hundred bucks. So the feature doesn't even have to include money, just the ability of MLB teams to sign Indy players in-season.

wildcat000 · 06-25-2008, 12:00 PM

I'm interested to hear a developer's reply to how possible this would be. (If possible)

Dr. P.R. Park III · 06-25-2008, 04:42 PM

Good luck.

wildcat000 · 06-26-2008, 12:50 AM

Yeah, I don't see how possible it would be, but I figured it would be useful to ask. Maybe there is a way to make it work, a round-about if you will.

rudel.dietrich · 06-26-2008, 12:55 AM

The financial system and the injury system are the weakest parts of OOTP and probably the only aspects of the game holding it back from being the perfect baseball simulation engine

wildcat000 · 06-26-2008, 02:42 AM

I would agree that they are the weakest, but it is really no falt to the developers. Finances are something hard to fully comprehend into a sports game without playing out market factors and all that (which it partially does).

I just hope it is possible to institute my suggested feature, as to add realism and a better "storyline" if you will for having an overlooked guy making the bigs. (By the way, a Frontier League alum made his debut for the Yankees, Justin Christian went 2-4 with 2 RBI. He played for River City in 2003 and part of 2004.)

wildcat000 · 06-28-2008, 12:45 PM

I guess the developers find this to much of a task for a patch? I assume it's a better suggestion for the 2009 version.

dcpcarmona · 06-28-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wildcat000

I guess the developers find this to much of a task for a patch? I assume it's a better suggestion for the 2009 version.

or '10 version. And BINGO was his namo!

06-24-2008, 01:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
wildcat000 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 73 Thanked 5x in 2 posts	Independent Leagues: MLB Teams purchasing contracts I have a question/suggestion. I play with a lot of Indy leagues (ex. Frontier League, Golden League, Northern League, etc.) and the whole purpose of those leagues is to get players back into affiliated ball. Is there any way to allow MLB teams to purchase the "contracts" (ie players) from Independent teams and put them in a farm team? If not I guess this is a suggestion. It would add great realism and a whole bunch of depth for both MLB leagues and Indy leagues. I think it would be a great little addition if possible.

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attackemu All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 941 Thanked 37x in 13 posts	Well, besides the benefit to historical players being able to accurately play minor leagues of the early 20th century, it would also be useful for modern-day players to have a proper system set up for Japanese imports. __________________

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attackemu All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 941 Thanked 37x in 13 posts	Same basic concept though. Team A offers money to Team B for Player X. Team B takes or doesn't take the offer. __________________

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06-24-2008, 01:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
Dr. P.R. Park III All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 718 Thanked 94x in 43 posts	Been there, done that. This kind of feature will most likely never see the light of day. Sorry friend.

06-24-2008, 01:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
Dr. P.R. Park III All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 718 Thanked 94x in 43 posts	Well, my thoughts with you friend, and best of luck!

06-24-2008, 01:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
Dr. P.R. Park III All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 718 Thanked 94x in 43 posts	That whole process requires a whole new element. It's more of a bidding process, then purchasing of a contract. With the purchase of independent contracts, without knowing details, I'm sure it's a lot simpler.

06-24-2008, 01:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
wildcat000 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 73 Thanked 5x in 2 posts	It is as simple as that. In fact, in Independent leagues, it's a first come first serve basis. It's not like the Dice-K saga, where multiple teams bid, an Indy team will sell to the first bidder. The idea is to get a player signed, not paid.

06-24-2008, 03:03 AM	#12 (permalink)
Dr. P.R. Park III All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 718 Thanked 94x in 43 posts	How exactly does it work? How much does a purchase usually go for?

06-25-2008, 12:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
wildcat000 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 73 Thanked 5x in 2 posts	I'm interested to hear a developer's reply to how possible this would be. (If possible)

06-25-2008, 04:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
Dr. P.R. Park III All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 718 Thanked 94x in 43 posts	Good luck.

06-26-2008, 12:50 AM	#16 (permalink)
wildcat000 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 73 Thanked 5x in 2 posts	Yeah, I don't see how possible it would be, but I figured it would be useful to ask. Maybe there is a way to make it work, a round-about if you will.

06-26-2008, 02:42 AM	#18 (permalink)
wildcat000 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 73 Thanked 5x in 2 posts	I would agree that they are the weakest, but it is really no falt to the developers. Finances are something hard to fully comprehend into a sports game without playing out market factors and all that (which it partially does). I just hope it is possible to institute my suggested feature, as to add realism and a better "storyline" if you will for having an overlooked guy making the bigs. (By the way, a Frontier League alum made his debut for the Yankees, Justin Christian went 2-4 with 2 RBI. He played for River City in 2003 and part of 2004.)

06-28-2008, 12:45 PM	#19 (permalink)
wildcat000 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 73 Thanked 5x in 2 posts	I guess the developers find this to much of a task for a patch? I assume it's a better suggestion for the 2009 version.