Just a piece of advice to those frustrated with the game

lynchjm24 · 06-28-2008, 09:07 AM

Play fictional. Forget the MLB roster set. It seems as though almost every problem with the game is related to 'real' players.

You might be hell bent on only playing with real MLB players. Give it a chance anyway, once you aren't so frustrated with those problems you might actually be able to enjoy the game.

The Wolf · 06-28-2008, 10:05 AM

Or, if you like real players, play historical, which works great.

Dr. P.R. Park III · 06-28-2008, 11:18 AM

Both of those are great advice. But yeah, definitely steer clear of the MLB Quickstart, or atleast if you plan to build onto it, that's a disaster waiting to happen.

1998 Yankees · 06-28-2008, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. P.R. Park III

Both of those are great advice. But yeah, definitely steer clear of the MLB Quickstart, or atleast if you plan to build onto it, that's a disaster waiting to happen.

Which will get better with the next patch, and perhaps even better with the one after that. It was a big undertaking, I gather, and they ran out of time. Not making an excuse for them, just a statement of my opinion.

bosunmate · 06-28-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Which will get better with the next patch, and perhaps even better with the one after that. It was a big undertaking, I gather, and they ran out of time. Not making an excuse for them, just a statement of my opinion.

What he said.

PhillieFever · 06-28-2008, 01:11 PM

For me,the draw was the historical option so I'm biased but I think its definitely the way to go.Just the ability to play through the entire history of baseball is phenomenal.I was actually tinkering with the thought of going historical with one change,the Athletics stay in Philly and the Phillies leave.I'm not sure if its possible to do this but it sure would be interesting to see how it would affect the sport.

deadringer · 06-28-2008, 01:12 PM

This is exactly why I think Markus either needs to quit marketing the MLB quick start as a feature or he needs to do whatever it takes to get a solid working version rolling.

rasnell · 06-28-2008, 02:40 PM

I'm not having any problems with 2008 rosters, but, even if you are, please remember the perspective that you get the entire history of baseball from the 1870s to 2007 with no extra charge for season disks, etc.

If 2008 just won't work right, a patch should resolve, but in the meantime you have more than 130 other years to choose from.

MizzouRah · 06-28-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lynchjm24

Play fictional. Forget the MLB roster set. It seems as though almost every problem with the game is related to 'real' players.

You might be hell bent on only playing with real MLB players. Give it a chance anyway, once you aren't so frustrated with those problems you might actually be able to enjoy the game.

+1

I use BM 09 for my MLB fix and OOTP for my fictional league tastes.

dcpcarmona · 06-28-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

+1

I use BM 09 for my MLB fix and OOTP for my fictional league tastes.

nothing wrong with that!

The Wolf · 06-28-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by deadringer

This is exactly why I think Markus either needs to quit marketing the MLB quick start as a feature or he needs to do whatever it takes to get a solid working version rolling.

"

Ditto the fictional quickstart.

treedom · 06-28-2008, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lynchjm24

Play fictional. Forget the MLB roster set. It seems as though almost every problem with the game is related to 'real' players.

You might be hell bent on only playing with real MLB players. Give it a chance anyway, once you aren't so frustrated with those problems you might actually be able to enjoy the game.

Fictional is the best way to play anyway.

The Wolf · 06-28-2008, 07:33 PM

Starting with this version, historical is every bit as good.

ootp3to6 · 06-28-2008, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lynchjm24

Play fictional. Forget the MLB roster set. It seems as though almost every problem with the game is related to 'real' players.

You might be hell bent on only playing with real MLB players. Give it a chance anyway, once you aren't so frustrated with those problems you might actually be able to enjoy the game.

Thanks for the advice.

SetonHallPirate · 06-28-2008, 07:50 PM

What's the problem wth the real MLB players? If there's a problem with them, I'm missing it.

CTSoxFan · 06-28-2008, 09:20 PM

The problem is, a lot of people want perfection, exact rosters, complete minors, etc, which is very hard to do. The quickstart can be fun, but I don't like it because it has to many holes. I've become hooked on historical leagues again instead, but will probably update an older roster file or something so I can play a modern game as well. But the historical leagues and the amount of customization possible is what makes OOTP great.

I can run a league starting in 1901 with the majors and add leagues like the PCL, American Association, Federal League, etc and see what happens. Which is a lot of fun.

Dr. P.R. Park III · 06-28-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Which will get better with the next patch, and perhaps even better with the one after that. It was a big undertaking, I gather, and they ran out of time. Not making an excuse for them, just a statement of my opinion.

No doubt about it. But despite my frustrations in the past with this game, I will definitely admit that this years quickstart was much better then the one from 8. But, I've also learned my lessons when it comes to trying to add on from pre-existing sources, such as the quickstart, and templates. Quickstarts and templates not made from your own system are recipes for OOTP crashing anarchy.

It's best to just use the pre-designed leagues.

MizzouRah · 06-29-2008, 11:36 PM

Just bumping this thread.

While I'm waiting until at least 5 years of history goes by in my MLB Fictional league before taking over a team.. just started simming 2011.. so far, everything looks like it should.

I'm very pleased at what I'm seeing thus far from my universe. Funny thing is.. it takes me several short 1-2 hourly sessions of playing to get through a season because I love looking at just about everything that's going on in my universe.

v9 is shaping up to be my favorite version yet...

Erithtotl · 06-30-2008, 12:12 AM

I'll second the OPs statement.

Additionally, I'd recommend having more leagues than just ML/minors unless you want to spend a lot of trial and error getting the settings right, because by default it injects too much talent into the league IMHO.

GOMETS · 06-30-2008, 12:19 AM

Have fun!

I always set up my games with real players and let what happens happen. If I don't like it....I tweaked it.

Hey even in real life GMs do things we don't understand or players fall of Hall of Fame paces into a black hole.

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lynchjm24 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hartford Posts: 976 Thanked 1x in 1 post Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Just a piece of advice to those frustrated with the game Play fictional. Forget the MLB roster set. It seems as though almost every problem with the game is related to 'real' players. You might be hell bent on only playing with real MLB players. Give it a chance anyway, once you aren't so frustrated with those problems you might actually be able to enjoy the game.

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rasnell Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,077 Thanked 16x in 11 posts	I'm not having any problems with 2008 rosters, but, even if you are, please remember the perspective that you get the entire history of baseball from the 1870s to 2007 with no extra charge for season disks, etc. If 2008 just won't work right, a patch should resolve, but in the meantime you have more than 130 other years to choose from. __________________ Charlie Root won more games for the Cubs than any pitcher, yet was remembered for one pitch to Babe Ruth. Learn more, see rare video, and order the first biography of this Cub great as revealed by daughter Della, 90, and Roger Snell -- OOTP beta tester, Pulitzer Prize winner and author of "Root for the Cubs: Charlie Root and the 1929 Chicago Cubs." See all this at www.rootforthecubs.com. Beta tester, OOTP 2007-2011. Member, Society for American Baseball Research.

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CTSoxFan Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 471 Thanked 2x in 1 post	The problem is, a lot of people want perfection, exact rosters, complete minors, etc, which is very hard to do. The quickstart can be fun, but I don't like it because it has to many holes. I've become hooked on historical leagues again instead, but will probably update an older roster file or something so I can play a modern game as well. But the historical leagues and the amount of customization possible is what makes OOTP great. I can run a league starting in 1901 with the majors and add leagues like the PCL, American Association, Federal League, etc and see what happens. Which is a lot of fun. __________________

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GOMETS Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 37	Its a freakin game... Have fun! I always set up my games with real players and let what happens happen. If I don't like it....I tweaked it. Hey even in real life GMs do things we don't understand or players fall of Hall of Fame paces into a black hole.

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06-28-2008, 11:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
Dr. P.R. Park III All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 718 Thanked 93x in 42 posts	Both of those are great advice. But yeah, definitely steer clear of the MLB Quickstart, or atleast if you plan to build onto it, that's a disaster waiting to happen.

06-28-2008, 01:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
PhillieFever Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Philly Posts: 5,847 Thanked 289x in 252 posts	For me,the draw was the historical option so I'm biased but I think its definitely the way to go.Just the ability to play through the entire history of baseball is phenomenal.I was actually tinkering with the thought of going historical with one change,the Athletics stay in Philly and the Phillies leave.I'm not sure if its possible to do this but it sure would be interesting to see how it would affect the sport.

06-28-2008, 01:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
deadringer All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: La Grande, Oregon Posts: 977 Thanked 5x in 3 posts	This is exactly why I think Markus either needs to quit marketing the MLB quick start as a feature or he needs to do whatever it takes to get a solid working version rolling.

06-28-2008, 07:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
SetonHallPirate Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2002 Location: Boynton Beach, Florida Posts: 132 Thanked 1x in 1 post	What's the problem wth the real MLB players? If there's a problem with them, I'm missing it.

06-29-2008, 11:36 PM	#18 (permalink)
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 3,038 Thanked 249x in 134 posts	Just bumping this thread. While I'm waiting until at least 5 years of history goes by in my MLB Fictional league before taking over a team.. just started simming 2011.. so far, everything looks like it should. I'm very pleased at what I'm seeing thus far from my universe. Funny thing is.. it takes me several short 1-2 hourly sessions of playing to get through a season because I love looking at just about everything that's going on in my universe. v9 is shaping up to be my favorite version yet...

06-30-2008, 12:12 AM	#19 (permalink)
Erithtotl Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 318 Thanked 1x in 1 post	I'll second the OPs statement. Additionally, I'd recommend having more leagues than just ML/minors unless you want to spend a lot of trial and error getting the settings right, because by default it injects too much talent into the league IMHO.