Waiver trades

[damonrusst]

So not sure if this is a bug or if it's just how a waiver trade is supposed to work. Any advice would be appreciated.

I just tried to trade Dib Williams for a quality MR. It was after the trade deadline so I had to wait for waivers to clear. The guy I was trading for got claimed off waivers so the trade wasn't processed.

But then I checked the transaction log and saw that he was listed as being a free agent. Is this the way it is supposed to work? I thought if he got claimed, he'd end up on the team that claimed him.

Can anyone help me out on this?

[Solonor]

Originally Posted by damonrusst

So not sure if this is a bug or if it's just how a waiver trade is supposed to work. Any advice would be appreciated.

I just tried to trade Dib Williams for a quality MR. It was after the trade deadline so I had to wait for waivers to clear. The guy I was trading for got claimed off waivers so the trade wasn't processed.

But then I checked the transaction log and saw that he was listed as being a free agent. Is this the way it is supposed to work? I thought if he got claimed, he'd end up on the team that claimed him.

Can anyone help me out on this?

No, that's not how it's supposed to work. The game doesn't actually do it right, either, but that's another rant.

In OOTP, if the guy gets claimed by anyone, the trade is canceled. End of story. He doesn't go anywhere.

[damonrusst]

Really? That's pretty weak. Maybe I'll repost this in tech support see if I get any response.

Just for the record, if someone claims him during the trade, he should end up on that team, right? Not on the free agent rolls.

[Syd Thrift]

No, if somebody claims him you should have the option to revoke the waiver claim you put in. That's kind of the point of waivers. That being said, in real life teams dangle players on the waiver wire pretty often, just to see who bites (the idea being that the team with the claimed player would then try to trade him to the team who made the claim) and also in an attempt to hide it when they use waivers for other purposes (such as sending a player to the minors when he's out of options). The game could get really, really annoying by capturing that bit of realism.

[Solonor]

Originally Posted by damonrusst

Really? That's pretty weak. Maybe I'll repost this in tech support see if I get any response.

Just for the record, if someone claims him during the trade, he should end up on that team, right? Not on the free agent rolls.

No, if someone claims a player during a trade, it just cancels the trade. That's it. Game works as designed.

If you're seeing the guy suddenly show up as a free agent, then something else happened.

[CecilCooper]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

No, if somebody claims him you should have the option to revoke the waiver claim you put in. That's kind of the point of waivers. That being said, in real life teams dangle players on the waiver wire pretty often, just to see who bites (the idea being that the team with the claimed player would then try to trade him to the team who made the claim) and also in an attempt to hide it when they use waivers for other purposes (such as sending a player to the minors when he's out of options). The game could get really, really annoying by capturing that bit of realism.

Some GMs like to put close to their whole 40 man roster on waivers once the trade deadline passes. Then you don't know whether you are blocking someone from making a trade for that player... or if you are taking on him and his salary. I think it was the Red Sox about a decade ago who put a claim on Jose Canseco (or someone like that) thinking they were blocking the Yankees from trading for him (and that he would get pulled back) and the player's team said "Fine go ahead he is yours" and then they were stuck with him and his salary.

Also by putting everyone out there at once, many will make it through and you can then use all of those players in trades for the rest of the year.

[zekester91]

The Pirates do that every year, every player goes on waivers and normaly all but 2 or 3 make it through.

Just a guess but what seems to happen a lot in OOTP on waiver pick ups is the team getting the player "forgets" that he needs to be on the 40 man roster and they don't have room for him there and then he gets released. Or the original team (in the trade) DFA and waives him so when the trade gets canceld he's not on the 40 and they have filled his spot with someone else so they release him. There is a couple of logic bugs with the waiver system.

[Ramzavail]

I actually don't think it works. I am playing in NABA - the Skydog project.

Angel Gomez was placed on waivers sometime in early Sept, and I attempted to claim him, I have one of the worst records in the league.

I didn't get a message in a few days, so I checked my mail and noticed that he was then traded in a waiver trade. I have a few screenshots if necessary. But I know I put in a waiver claim.

[CecilCooper]

What team are you?
What team was he on?
What team did he go to?

The reason I ask is, I have not gotten that far in the game yet, but if you are in the other league than the waiving team all the other teams in the same league get first dibs and then the other league gets a crack. I am not sure if the game accurately depicts this or not, but in MLB revocable waivers are different in the handling of claims because of this wrinkle. So you might not have gotten the claim even with a bad record.

[zekester91]

Maybe they pulled him back on your wavier claim, then snuck him through during those few days you where not looking.

[Solonor]

None of that matters. If someone claims the player, the trade is canceled immediately (in OOTP, not in real life). So, the trade shouldn't have gone through.

[Ramzavail]

I am the Federals.
He was on the Gators.
He went to the Whales.

However, I traded for this guy from Mexico City, then I traded him to Low Country 4 months later. He pitched decently for LWC, thats why I wanted to scoop him back up, I like his "stuff".

Not that many days passed, since my team is awful, I usually stayed on the waiver page and simmed one day at a time from there.

[Ramzavail]

more discussion here about it

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post2560059

[zekester91]

Originally Posted by Solonor

None of that matters. If someone claims the player, the trade is canceled immediately (in OOTP, not in real life). So, the trade shouldn't have gone through.

My thought was maybe the trade got canceled, the next day the computer did the exact same trade, or one similar. The original poster wasn't paying attention to wavier wire those 3 days and it got through.